At what level of technology will them Space Aliens make contact with us???

[Broken_Erika]

Aliens already did, says so right in the Bible.



Apparently God was mad because of the tower we were building to visit Heaven. He didn't want the kids dropping in I guess, that suggests space flight was the purpose of the tower. If God's in the neighborhood he might not be too happy if we're littering 'the heavens' with nukes or getting close to finding Him.

Another interesting feature in the story is how people moved eastward to Sumeria to build their city and tower, the Garden of Eden story also describes people expanding eastward. God made man and woman on the 6th day and at some later date took 'the man' (one man, one of many) eastward to Eden to work for God. The plain of Shinar is Sumeria and the Garden now lies under the Persian Gulf. Thats 2 stories in Genesis identifying Africa as our likely original homeland when we were one people with one language.


As Spock would say, fascinating

you forgot to add the appropriate picture.

[Berzerker]

he didn't write the Bible

[rah]

Some other man did.

[Berzerker]

Some of that stuff in the Bible came from God, descriptions of the world and the 6 days of creation required knowledge our ancestors didn't have on their own

And the Earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of God hovered over the waters

then there was light and it was separated from the darkness and there was day and night - the world was spinning

The Earth = dry land, thats why it was without form and void - it was covered by the deep (ocean)

And it was dark... not pitch black, but darkness prevailed. Where were the sun and moon? They existed... But the proto-Earth and it's moon were further from the sun, therefore neither sun nor moon were the bright objects we see today. They came to dominate our sky later as the proto-Earth migrated closer to the sun.

Its been a while since I got into this subject

[Lorizael]

You seemed to have forgotten the complete physical implausibility of your scenario.

[Berzerker]

which is?

[Lorizael]

Smack the earth so that it moves to a new orbit but isn't annihilated. Then explain why it stopped where it did. Then circularize its orbit. These are just a few of the most significant problems.

[rah]

Some of that stuff in the Bible came from God, descriptions of the world and the 6 days of creation required knowledge our ancestors didn't have on their own

Or they just made it up.

[Berzerker]

Smack the earth so that it moves to a new orbit but isn't annihilated. Then explain why it stopped where it did. Then circularize its orbit. These are just a few of the most significant problems.

Researchers are claiming the Earth is a 2nd (or maybe even 3rd) generation planet, meaning it did get smacked. Now where in the solar system is there evidence of such an impact? The asteroid belt where its darker and water vapor blown outward by the solar wind condenses. Thats why researchers keep trying to explain where our water came from, it formed out there, not here. Why couldn't the Earth adopt a new, 'circular' orbit after a series of impacts given enough time and interaction with other gravitational fields?

It stopped because God rested on the 7th day, the Earth is the 7th planet now. It was the 6th, check out this rock art from Utah:

https://www.climb-utah.com/Misc/Files/ninemile01.jpg

That top row shows the planets before the Earth was created. The proto-Earth, the planet covered by water and darkness in Gen 1:2, is the central figure with horns as the 4th planet from the sun between Mars and Jupiter exactly where Mesopotamian myth and Genesis places it. The Indian with the bow and arrow on the lower right is the creator stalking it. Between them are 5 sheep representing the outer planets. The 'Demon' or biblical watery dragon is the 6th planet from the creator in that image.

In the Babylonian Enuma Elish that watery dragon is called Tiamat, the biblical Tehom. The Enuma Elish describes creation, Tiamat is the 4th planet from the sun with 5 outer planets. A satellite of Saturn joins the 4 olden gods before creation. In the 9 Mile Canyon image a smaller sheep is between the last two planets (Uranus and Neptune), thats Pluto and it actually does swing inside of Neptune's orbit at perihelion and when it does, Saturn's rings point to it, meaning Pluto lies on Saturn's equatorial plane.

Now here are images showing the solar system after creation

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_planetx/andylloyd9_4.gif

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cosmotawa.htm

The article is worth reading too, it disputes the notion the Inca had a sun cult but it concludes the creator is Saturn. In the image the creator is the large ellipse dominating the celestial scene at the top just below the vault of the roof. The ellipse divides the solar system into 5 outer planets and 4 inner planets.

Both images from Utah and Peru are based on a solar system of 12 objects, sun, moon, 9 planets and the creator.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oIr6vanjhco/WmKLH43LODI/AAAAAAAABMU/tZDDRxnSvgUxSOTWifrt05DztiFrc-wGwCLcBGAs/s1600/00--00VA.jpg

And there's our solar system according to the Mesopotamians

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1bcaf73c51ac.jpg

Compare that with the 7 dots below the Earth in the lower left of the Incan image of creation.

[Berzerker]

Or they just made it up.

the same story found around the world?

a story that is supported by the science?

a dark, water covered world gave way to dry land and life

the oldest 'rocks' we can find formed in water, plate tectonics, continents and life came later

[Lorizael]

Why couldn't the Earth adopt a new, 'circular' orbit after a series of impacts given enough time and interaction with other gravitational fields?

I explained why last time. You didn't listen then, so I'm not going to bother now.

[Berzerker]

then why did you respond this time?

[Dinner]

the same story found around the world?

a story that is supported by the science?

a dark, water covered world gave way to dry land and life

the oldest 'rocks' we can find formed in water, plate tectonics, continents and life came later

No, the oldest rocks we know of did not form in water.

/geologist

[Berzerker]

Geologists once thought the early Earth was far too hot for its surface to be anything but an ocean of magma, let alone to have liquid water. In fact, the earliest period in the Earth’s history, from its formation to 4 billion years ago, is called the Hadean because it was widely believed to resemble hell, or Hades.That meant zircons from the Hadean period should have oxygen isotope ratios comparable to that of water molecules in the Earth’s mantle. But geologists studying the Jack Hills region of Western Australia, which has yielded the oldest zircons ever found, have been unearthing zircons from as far back as 4.375 billion years ago whose oxygen isotope ratios show they may have formed from magma that incorporated liquid water.

https://cosmosmagazine.com/geoscience/zircons-how-tiny-crystals-open-a-window-into-the-early-history-of-earth

[rah]

So that doesn't jive with the bible saying the earth is only 6000 years old. Totally made up. "because God rested on the 7th day" laughable.
It is possible for stories that support scientific fact to be incorporated into a totally made up story. Using that as proof that God created the earth is a stretch.

[Berzerker]

I explained why last time. You didn't listen then, so I'm not going to bother now.

You dont have to explain it, just link me research that claims the Earth could not form elsewhere. Why is it impossible for a planet at the asteroid belt to move closer to the sun.