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  • #31
    2.) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma's American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?
    I imagine lots of people were contacting the new guy to settle up

    Trump is nuts if he thinks the people who helped Clinton is going to investigate themselves. I think they are in charge now, the guy who leaked the 'black ledger' was an adviser to the new prez until Trump won and they had to distance the guy or piss Trump off even more.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

      I imagine lots of people were contacting the new guy to settle up

      Trump is nuts if he thinks the people who helped Clinton is going to investigate themselves. I think they are in charge now, the guy who leaked the 'black ledger' was an adviser to the new prez until Trump won and they had to distance the guy or piss Trump off even more.
      They have reported that they are investigating. That prosecutor was fired. The real issue is that Obama sent an ambassador there to tell them not to investigate. We have to remember that the money was coming from the US (and Soros).
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      • #33
        do u have an english translation on the ukraine leaks blog?

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        • #34
          “A year after Poroshenko’s pro-Western government came to power in 2014, the IMF agreed to loan Kyiv $17.5 billion (€15.8 billion) over four years — and then suspended the aid in 2017 after disbursing only half of it over worries about corruption”, Deutsche Welle reports.
          so right after Trump got into office we suspended the aid... I dont think he was too happy with them

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
            do u have an english translation on the ukraine leaks blog?
            Not off hand but if I find one I'll post it. There is a big problem with translations. They have known in Ukraine that Ukrainians meddled in the election for a long time. That's why Zelensky got elected. But the information is not being disseminated here in the US. I'm working on getting documents. There is an important audio that has to be translated into English.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

              so right after Trump got into office we suspended the aid... I dont think he was too happy with them
              They put all their chips down on Hillary winning. They lost big. That's why they weren't happy. Ukrainians understand the problem. That's why Zelensky won.
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              • #37
                There's links to several pieces of evidence here ...

                THE DOCUMENTS for 'Ukraine: The Democrats' Russia'
                https://www.glennbeck.com/glenn-beck/all-the-evidence-for-ukraine-the-scandal-explained
                We've heard the catchphrase "follow the money" so often that it's nearly a joke. It gained added attention in the 1976 movie All the President's Men, which follows the story of the two journalists who uncovered Watergate. "Follow the money," their source told them, "and you'll find corruption." ...
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                • #38
                  Whistleblower.
                  Trump.
                  Stay on topic.

                  Nothing about these sudden, out-fof-the-blue Biden conspiracy theories does anything to address the issue at hand.
                  All this Biden crap is just hand-waving and distraction for Donny's gulls, most likely directed by his Kremlin bosses to magically exonerate Russia from their proven and ongoing interference in our democracy.

                  It is, of course, no surprise that a Deep Stater like Kid would swallow this transparent BS, hook, line, and sinker.

                  Look, I'm not saying anything about Biden. He's a politician, and nearly all of them are crooked, both D & R. But that's irrelevant to the whistleblower inquiry.
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                  • #39
                    It's OK for trump to be a crook since someone else was. DOH
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #40
                      The Democrats are the ones that made this about Biden.

                      (Will respond more later)
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                      • #41
                        Why, is the Brietbart site down? Yeah, it was the Dems that made it about Biden.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #42
                          A group of wealthy Republican Party donors reportedly tried to install a new CEO at Ukraine’s state gas company, while touting their connections to the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer.

                          The businessmen hoped to personally profit from a change of management, by striking a deal with the company.

                          Rick Perry, the US energy secretary, also tried to engineer a change in board members at Naftogaz, the multibillion-dollar corporation.

                          The revelations will raise further questions over the White House’s role in the former Soviet republic.

                          House Democrats have subpoenaed Mr Guiliani for documents related to many of the individuals involved, as part of an impeachment probe into the president.

                          Trump allies plotted to oust Ukraine gas company CEO so they could profit, reports say
                          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ukraine-impeachment-naftogaz-rudy-giuliani-donors-inquiry-gop-a9145651.html
                          ‘There is absolutely no proof that I did it, because I didn’t do it,’ says Rudy Giuliani


                          Really drained the swamp didn't he

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                          • #43
                            But But Biden.
                            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                              Whistleblower.
                              Trump.
                              Stay on topic.

                              Nothing about these sudden, out-fof-the-blue Biden conspiracy theories does anything to address the issue at hand.
                              All this Biden crap is just hand-waving and distraction for Donny's gulls, most likely directed by his Kremlin bosses to magically exonerate Russia from their proven and ongoing interference in our democracy.

                              It is, of course, no surprise that a Deep Stater like Kid would swallow this transparent BS, hook, line, and sinker.

                              Look, I'm not saying anything about Biden. He's a politician, and nearly all of them are crooked, both D & R. But that's irrelevant to the whistleblower inquiry.
                              Sad but hilarious. You still believe in the Russia Collusion Hoax based on ZERO evidence. That's a big goose egg.

                              But more relevantly you insisted at least 3 times that we just let the investigation continue. In the end there is zero evidence but you still believe. Well then you always believed. You just said that you didn't believe, that we should just wait until the investigation was complete. So you are an established fake.

                              Now this isn't a Biden conspiracy theory. That's some corrupt news horse****. Let me spell it out for you even though you won't care, being an established fake. Biden violated established ethical standards. That's a fact. Mkay? He was supposed to recuse himself since his son's firm was under investigation. That is an ethical standard. That's a fact.

                              But why can the VP get a prosecutor fired in a foreign country anyway and people like you, who are fake, don't bat an eye or ask questions. Your TV says "It's a conspiracy theory." That's what you call thinking.

                              But yeah, it's not really about Biden. It's about election interference and it's an ongoing investigation. Say it with me ONGOING INVESTIGATION. So thank you for not talking about Biden. His a 1%er that Obama took off the garbage heap.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                              • -Jrabbit
                                #44.1
                                -Jrabbit commented
                                October 7, 2019, 18:18
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                                I believe that there was significant Russian Interference in the 2016 election. Doesn't matter whether Donnyboy and friends colluded actively or not. I believe in the hard evidence unanimously agreed as a threat to our democratic process by the entire U.S. intelligence community. Russia interfered with our election. It's a freaking fact.

                                And as Trump and his supporters call anyone who opposes them liars and corrupt, routinely and impudently accusing others of exactly the crimes they are committing and the lies they are promoting, I mourn the death of irony.

                                As for you, Kidicious, I'm well aware that you are too far gone to ever accept the many, many inconvenient truths about our Liar-In-Chief. I'm a little sad for you, but since you were similarly unable to discern fact from fiction back when you decided Communism was A-OK, I guess being easily brainwashed is just in your DNA.
                              • Kidlicious
                                #44.2
                                Kidlicious commented
                                October 7, 2019, 19:09
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                                It can't be a fact if it's a fact that the people that told you that it's a fact don't exist
                              • -Jrabbit
                                #44.3
                                -Jrabbit commented
                                October 7, 2019, 23:13
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                                You really are brainwashed. So you don't believe the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, or any of the 5 other US intelligence agencies that all drew the same conclusion. Instead, you believe Putin and his lapdog, Donald J. Trump. Trump, the man who abandons his Syrian Kurdish allies to slaughter by Turkey - just what Erdogan and Putin want. You should just move to Eastern Europe.
                            • #45
                              Originally posted by giblets View Post
                              A group of wealthy Republican Party donors reportedly tried to install a new CEO at Ukraine’s state gas company, while touting their connections to the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer.

                              The businessmen hoped to personally profit from a change of management, by striking a deal with the company.

                              Rick Perry, the US energy secretary, also tried to engineer a change in board members at Naftogaz, the multibillion-dollar corporation.

                              The revelations will raise further questions over the White House’s role in the former Soviet republic.

                              House Democrats have subpoenaed Mr Guiliani for documents related to many of the individuals involved, as part of an impeachment probe into the president.

                              Trump allies plotted to oust Ukraine gas company CEO so they could profit, reports say
                              https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ukraine-impeachment-naftogaz-rudy-giuliani-donors-inquiry-gop-a9145651.html
                              ‘There is absolutely no proof that I did it, because I didn’t do it,’ says Rudy Giuliani


                              Really drained the swamp didn't he
                              Wow. Talk about a conspiracy theory. There is absolutely zero evidence of wrong doing except by the so-called Trump donors/"allies"
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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