The Clinton Foundation

[Ming]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...t-consequences

So... Michael Flynn is an idiot for not keeping his mouth shut until he had a lawyer present... It doesn't change the fact that he lied.

[Kidlicious]

Hey guys ... now it makes sense. CSI:Whatever canbe watched in a totally different light! Get this: The reason one cop is mean and the other is nice is because the nice one is trying to build a report with you to try and get you to tell them stuff! And if you lie to them you might get caught. Mind blown!

Yeah, especially if they get you to lie to them. But nevermind about that, right? What's really important is SOMEONE LIED!

[Kidlicious]

So... Michael Flynn is an idiot for not keeping his mouth shut until he had a lawyer present... It doesn't change the fact that he lied.

And the FBI sets people up becaue Orange Man. Nevermind though.

[Ming]

What they did wasn't illegal
What Michael Flynn did was
So what's your point again?

[Kidlicious]

Three whistleblowers testify tomorrow.

[Kidlicious]

What they did wasn't illegal
What Michael Flynn did was
So what's your point again?

You seriously DO NOT get the point?! They told him that he didn't need a lawyer. Why do you think they did that?

[Ming]

You seriously DO NOT get the point?! They told him that he didn't need a lawyer. Why do you think they did that?

You are the one that doesn't get it... Law enforcement can lie all they want when interviewing somebody, it's standard operating procedure
He was the stupid one for not understanding his rights to have a lawyer present

So what's your point again... do you even have one?

[Kidlicious]

You are the one that doesn't get it... Law enforcement can lie all they want when interviewing somebody, it's standard operating procedure
He was the stupid one for not understanding his rights to have a lawyer present

So what's your point again... do you even have one?

Not like that they can't. Not ethically. They didn't lie to get evidence of a crime. They lied to GET HIM TO COMMIT A CRIME.

[Ming]

Not like that they can't. Not ethically. They didn't lie to get evidence of a crime. They lied to GET HIM TO COMMIT A CRIME.

Uh... yes they can.
Again, standard operating procedures for law enforcement
They don't have to tell the truth
And this is a fact
You can whine all you want but it doesn't change the actual facts here
So thanks for playing...

[Kidlicious]

I can't believe that you are actually arguing that police can get people to break the law and then charge them with a crime. YOu are a fricken nazi.

[Ming]

I'm not... what you are talking about is intrapment
And that's not the case here...
It's simple, they asked him questions and he lied. He could have told the truth but he didn't
What they did was legal, what he did wasn't

[Kidlicious]

I'm not... what you are talking about is intrapment
And that's not the case here...
It's simple, they asked him questions and he lied. He could have told the truth but he didn't
What they did was legal, what he did wasn't

Nope. You are flat out lying now. I clearly said that they behaved unethically. Obviously it does not rise to the level of criminal enrapment or Flynn's lawyers would have made that case. But is was unethical behaviour almost rising to the level of entrapment.

In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit.^[1] It "is the conception and planning of an offense by an officer, and his procurement of its commission by one who would not have perpetrated it except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer."^[2]

[Kidlicious]

Well first you interview them for a crime that is never prosecuted and tell them that they don't have anything to worry about. Then you tell them that they don't need a lawyer that will tell them that something is fishy.

Beyond that we don't know what actually happened during the interview yet, but Congress does.

[Proteus_MST]

Still, it should be standard for people to tell the truth during an interview in a criminal investigation. No matter whether they are told that you don't have anything to worry about or not.
Telling you that you don't have anything to worry doesn't even come close to being an equivalent of "lie to me"

[Kidlicious]

You don't have to tell them anything. You should have a lawyer there with you. The lawyer will generally tell you not to say anything.

It's only a crime to lie to the FBI because they investigate federal crimes. It is very unethical to charge someone with lying to the FBI just because they lied to the FBI. Everyone in the FBI knows that.

[Kidlicious]

They can get people to commit crimes, but it depends on the circumstance. They can get a drug dealer to sell drugs, but they have a legitimate reason to do that. Flynn is a good guy. He wasn't a criminal. They got a 30 year veteran to commit a crime and then they charged him. They made him go bankrupt. They ruined his reputation. They put him through emotional hell.

[-Jrabbit]

He's a freaking career general, a national security advisor, and leader of the Trump transition team. Flynn can take care of himself, and he's used to playing with the big boys.

You make him sound like an 8-year-old with a learning disability. Have you no respect for our military leaders?

[pchang]

Liars lie when they think they can get away with it. Truth tellers tell the truth all the time. Lying is one of the few things you cannot entrap.

[Ming]

It is very unethical to charge someone with lying to the FBI just because they lied to the FBI.

Do you even read what you type...
HE LIED... That's a crime
It was his choice to lie... HE DIDN'T HAVE TO
He was unethical by lying, not the FBI who was asking him questions

[Kidlicious]

Do you even read what you type...
HE LIED... That's a crime
It was his choice to lie... HE DIDN'T HAVE TO
He was unethical by lying, not the FBI who was asking him questions

So it's it's ok to get him to lie and then charge him. Got it. I'm done with you. You are an unethical person.