atheist paradox

[ricketyclik]

If you squint just right, it all makes sense.

[spambot]

Would a God let people vote for Trump? I don't think so.

[Broken_Erika]

Behold! The one true Deity!

[Proteus_MST]

Would a God let people vote for Trump? I don't think so.

Not if he is a loving god.
The god of the old testament, on the other hand, would have no scruples about letting Trump become the PotUS

[ricketyclik]

I just figured out your handle. President of the EUropean States.

[Berzerker]

Because in the early solar systems (before planets were foremd) there were lots of collisions between the space rocks that would late form the planet simals and finally the planets ... collisions that would have the potential to change the spin consierably

so was it collisions or a non-zero angular momentum responsible for the spin rates of Venus and Earth? I thought the moon formed from a massive collision between the Earth and another planet sized object.

[Proteus_MST]

so was it collisions or a non-zero angular momentum responsible for the spin rates of Venus and Earth? I thought the moon formed from a massive collision between the Earth and another planet sized object.

Well, the rotation of the planetary disc is what gave the planet simals its initial spin .. which is why almost all planets rotate in the same direction ... the majority of planets just weren't hit by enough other rocks that exertet force contrary to their original spin in order to reverse it (after all, it is just a matter of the location where an object is hit that determines, whether its spin is affected and in what way (the collision may well increase its spin in the original direction instead of slowing it down (or even reversing it) ... which is why, for example the collision that created Luna didn't have a reversing impact on earths spin ... proto-earth just was it at an angle/location, that didn't affect its spin in such a way))

Uranus and Venus in this regards are just the statistical oddballs in our solar system, as they were either hit by enough other rocks in the right angle/location to reverse their spin, or by a few really large ones that did so.

But there are also other theories that think that gravitational influence by other planets or moons may have been responsible for reversing the spin of the 2 planets.

Here is a page that mentions a few of the theories (including the one I brought forward, about the collisions):

https://www.sciencealert.com/why-are-venus-and-uranus-spinning-in-the-wrong-direction

[Giancarlo]

Not if he is a loving god.
The god of the old testament, on the other hand, would have no scruples about letting Trump become the PotUS

Trump is a good reason why any extraterrestrial life has passed us by. Did some god create ET lol? Such earth centric ideas. Invented around the same time people thought the sun was orbiting the earth.

[Berzerker]

one last question, why does the moon have an inclined orbit if nothing disrupted Earth's orbital parameters?

[Aeson]

What if God was an atheist?

[Broken_Erika]

What if God was an atheist?

Then God just needs some self esteem.

[Proteus_MST]

one last question, why does the moon have an inclined orbit if nothing disrupted Earth's orbital parameters?

When moon and earth separated, the solar system still had lots of hue rocks/planet simals flying around (unlike today where the orbits have been cleaned) and many of them would do a close flyby on the earth/moon system.
The most recent theory (supported by computer simulations) is, that the moons orbit was influenced by the gravitational pull of these close flybys and that they caused moon to finally attain the inclined orbit we see of it today

[Berzerker]

the moon was hit by large objects during the late heavy bombardment, so was the Earth... Wouldn't these impacts disrupt the Earth-Moon system? Why didn't close flybys tug the Galilean moons off Jupiter's equatorial plane?

sorry, more questions

[Proteus_MST]

the moon was hit by large objects during the late heavy bombardment, so was the Earth... Wouldn't these impacts disrupt the Earth-Moon system? Why didn't close flybys tug the Galilean moons off Jupiter's equatorial plane?

sorry, more questions

Sure, after the creation of the earth-moon-system they both were still hit by other objects ... and these may as well still have had an influenced earths spin, earhs orbit, moons orbit and moons rotation.... and those impacts also added additional mass to earth and moon. What we see now is the result of all of these processes that took place during the first billions of years.
They just didn't hve such an impact that reversed earths spin or pushed moon away from earth (or let it plummet into earth).

Similarly the galilean moons are the results of such processes (although I suspect that the regular impact of larger objects stopped earlier in this case ... Jupiter, due to its huge mass / gravity is like a vacuum cleaner which, already early on, cleaned its orbital path and a large area surrounding it from all larger objects.

[Lorizael]

Why doesn't Venus spin like the Earth?

There's a total amount of angular momentum that the solar system started with that it basically still has. There's no reason to expect that angular momentum to be evenly distributed amongst all the bodies that happened to survive over 4.5 billion messy years. In fact, it would be weirder if it were. This answers the rest of your questions, too.

[Broken_Erika]

Biologists Confirm God Evolved From Chimpanzee Deity

According to experts, divine life began as a single-celled all-powerful organism roughly 3.6 billion years ago, eventually evolving into a multicelled, sponge-like deity that bobbed and floated across the chaos of the early universe. Kamen explained that over hundreds of millions of years, the godlike life form became more complex, with limbs that allowed for locomotion across the endless expanse of the heavens, and sophisticated photoreceptor cells capable of seeing all things.