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  • #16
    JAR JAR BINKS!
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • #17
      I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
      Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
      Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!

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      • #18
        Finally seen it.

        I agree that it was unexpected and rather cheesy,that Princess Leia suddenly (after a time in space where she should already have died from aphyxation or embolism) opened her eyes and somehow (foce indued) floated back towards the ship.
        I wonder what they will do with Leia now, that she has survived SW VIII ... use her as a character who acts from the background most of the time? (and only a few times show and display her with the help of CGI (like young Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One))

        I liked it that Hans son now, after the death of Snkees, has become more of a Darth Vader.

        Generally, however I found it disturbing that they put in so many reference to ESB and ROTJ.
        (like, the Battle of Hoth ... the chase of the Millenium Falcon, Luke meeting the Emperor, Luke discovering the "evil tree" at Dagobah)
        I actually was surprised that they didn't replicate "Luke lifting his X-Wing out of the samp" (by letting Rey do it with Lukes submerged X-Wing)

        I was also surprised that Yoda actually had the power to summon some lightnings (which ncinerated Lukes tree library).
        I always thought that, after becoming "one wih the force", you would be limited to some oberver role as some kid of forc spirit ... not that you would be able to actually act in the real world.
        (and honestly, if Yoda had this ability, he surrely ould have used it much more in the past in order to help the light side )


        Generally, I felt well entertained by the movie, however
        Last edited by Proteus_MST; December 23, 2017, 02:03.
        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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        • #19
          Generally, I felt well entertained by the movie, however
          And that is all that matters, since you'll fork down money on the next one. That was the major goal.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #20
            This is objectively terrible. Chewbacca sings silent night.

            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • #21
              That's a movie I'm never watching again.

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              • #22
                HISHE

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                  • #24
                    The part that bothers me the most is Luke, and not from a "Luke would never do that ..." angle. From a wishy washy angle. Luke, in the space of 2 days (?) goes from "I'm never doing force stuff again!" and "I can't help any of you" to "Ok, I'll train you" to "**** this, no more force stuff!" to "I'm gonna force sacrifice myself for my friends". One reversal would have been enough.

                    I think Luke should have physically gone to save his friends. Something like he doesn't train Rey at all, sticking to his "no force stuff" guns. Rey stumbles into the force library, learns some stuff on her own, goes into the dark side cave ... learns something other than how to snap her fingers. Gives up on Luke and leaves. R2 stays [forwhateverreason]. Luke is working on R2, the Leia projection plays. Rather than making it into a dumb joke, it wakes Luke up. Luke lifting the X-wing out of the water would have been an awesome moment in the theater ... Who cares if it's a cheesy remake. It's not like they didn't copy or ruin a whole lot of stuff from 5, 6, and others. The force projection stuff was dumb, basically all to set up 2 moons and a "brush off the shoulder" joke. Lightsaber fights are cool. Luke vs Kylo inside the rebel base while the rest of the rebels escape. Luke apologies for failing Kylo, in the end Kylo gets to swing his lightsaber through Luke's cloak. A combo of BK vs Vader and BK vs Anakin. No "high ground".

                    Poe also had a reversal in character. It's explainable easily enough ... but I don't see how the story benefits from it. The cool flamboyant character just became the safe boring character. Why? Messaging over story ... Han gets released from the carbonite and decides to become an accountant.

                    Snoke went from all knowing all powerful to silly Disney villain in 2 seconds. Yah Vader threw Palpatine into the hole, but doing so was a monumental effort and cost him his life. Palpatine wasn't saying "Oh, now Vader will pick up his REAL enemy and throw him into THAT PIT OVER THERE" to make it ridiculous. Snoke could have tripped and fell on his own lightsaber and it'd hardly have been more ridiculous. Maybe Snoke is still alive, it was a force projection, and that was just a test for Kylo? Otherwise it just seems like undercutting the showdown, and making The First Order into an even more laughable organization. (Same with force projection joke.) And tThe redshirts become the real fight. It was pretty good at least, but undercut by the preceeding laughable Snoke scene. I think they just couldn't figure out how to make the ridiculous figure of Snoke look cool in combat.

                    Last scene ... Rey stays behind "to face Kylo". The survivors fly off in the Falcon. Kylo comes out of the cave. After a tense moment with both on guard ... Rey holsters her saber. Kylo looks conflicted. Nothing said. End. Then I want to watch Episode 9.

                    (Civil war in The First Order, Rey and Kylo vs Snoke ... both Rey and Kylo tiptoeing the edge of light/dark from opposite sides. Finn getting a bunch of defectors to join the rebels. General Huckster inexplicably not present for any of it. Culminating in the death of Snoke and the reveal of Snokes true apprentice ... Darth Porgus. Ok, probably not that last part.)
                    Last edited by Aeson; December 24, 2017, 23:46.

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                    • #25
                      The Force Skype call makes this comic 10x more amusing: https://liberlibelula.deviantart.com...o-on-589925704
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                      • #26
                        Man these force skype calls could have come in handy in the previous movies

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                        • #27
                          I love this review ...
                           

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by giblets View Post
                            Man these force skype calls could have come in handy in the previous movies
                            Likewise the ability of "force ghosts" such as Yoda, to actually act in the real world (like the thunderstorm he created in order to destroy Lukes library tree).
                            A lightning wieding Yoda (or Obi Wan) surely could have helped Luke (or the rebels) a lot during their fights on Endor or against the emperor
                            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                                I love this review ...
                                Stellar.

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