I miss the times, when we had MBT threads.

[Proteus_MST]

Who said I'm innocent? Sometimes I do traps and that was a trap. Though I really do miss those times when you Westerners had at least something to prove your point about your MBTs being in the same league as ours.

Now you are 20 years behind us!

Now, EAT THAT!!!
Have a nice day!

Pfft ... at the moment you have how many?
AFAIK 20 prototype of them ... not all too much


It is almost like our Leopard 2 Revolution ... it is vastly superior to all previous models, fields ADS and superior electronics, including a new FCS ... but due to the costs of the upgrade I wouldn't expect this upgrade to be applied to the Leopard 2s of the Bundeswehr all too soon

But I'd surely like to see you T-14 in some of the tank competitions worldwide (like the Strong european tank challenge (including he US) that is held every year in germany (although I have to say that the Strong competition is more a test of the ablity of the crews to use their equipment, than a test of the equipment itself))

[Serb]

Pfft ... at the moment you have how many?
AFAIK 20 prototype of them ... not all too much

Nope. It's in serial production already)))
Besides, it's funny to hear something about numbers from a German. Just how much any kind of tanks you have in your Bundeswehr right now?
200+?

It is almost like our Leopard 2 Revolution ... it is vastly superior to all previous models, fields ADS and superior electronics, including a new FCS ... but due to the costs of the upgrade I wouldn't expect this upgrade to be applied to the Leopard 2s of the Bundeswehr all too soon

Nope. IIRC, That upgrade for Leo, known as "MBT Revolution" was first shown in 2011, four years before the T-14 have appeared, but nobody really cared about it and considered it as revolution. Then, we have shown T-14 and you have re-appeared and started to promote your "MBT Revolution" as a reply to a Soviet threat, because you have nothing better. That is hilarious!

But I'd surely like to see you T-14 in some of the tank competitions worldwide (like the Strong european tank challenge (including he US) that is held every year in germany (although I have to say that the Strong competition is more a test of the ablity of the crews to use their equipment, than a test of the equipment itself))

You have stolen our invention!

[Serb]

Ok, forget about the tanks, tell me, did you like the Russian cover of Rammstein?
Till Lidemann did!

[ZEE]

Serb, nobody here cares about tanks.

It's about NUKES now.

[Serb]

"We are deepsh!ts"


I quote the video. btw, you (the West) have been invited to participate in our tank biathlon many times, but always refused. Guess why?

[ZEE]

because we could simply nuke your ass.

[Serb]

Serb, nobody here cares about tanks.

It's about NUKES now.

Oh, really?

You want me to tell something about rusty American nukes?
The most modern Minutemen-3 ICBM, you have in your inventory right now, was commissioned under Reigan in 80's. I repeat - the most modern ICBM you have right now is about 35 years old piece of metal, not to mention its design, which still uses 3 inches floppy drives to launch. While we have a whole f*cking NEW GENERATION of ICBMs at out disposal.
Same goes for American SSBNs which are a generation behind from ours, especially considering their outdated missiles.
And don't even start me to tell about the air component of your nuclear triad! Because its based on B-52, the most modern bomber of the model was commissioned in a f*cking 1962!!! I wonder how that rusty pieces of metal are still flying! A dozen of B-2 you have can carry only free-fall nuclear bombs (by my guest for our SAMs or interceptors). Same goes for dozens of B1b you have.

Summary:
You are even in a WAYyyyy more deep sh!t when it comes to nukes, then when it comes to tanks.

[Serb]

because we could simply nuke your ass.

We can nuke your ass way better than you could ours.

[Serb]

The only difference between us is that we don't want to exterminate you, like you want to exterminate us. You just are f*cking capitalist maniacs, whom you always have been. But, now it's even worse, because you went completely insane and became a post-modern maniac. When you had "modern" as your global project for development, you were at least - predictable! Now, when you have realized that other World players, who use the same approach would beat you in a global competition soon, you became a post-modern, who destroys any kind of modern worldwide, who wants to stop national development by destroying national states and replace them with medieval chaos like you did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and wanted to do so in Syria. Not to mention all that Arab spring event, where you have overthrew your own allies, like Mubarak in Egypt, who were loyal for you for decades, to replace them with radical medieval Islamist force who doesn't want any progress. The Al-Queda was your pilot project in Afghanistan in 80's and Bin Laden was a paid CIA agent, now you have advanced to ISIS level in the Middle East!
All the same goes for Ukraine where you have openly and blatantly waked-up the force of fascism! Right in the middle of f*cking Europe!!! Because you don't need Europe as your competitor, especially the Europe tied with Russia where industry and technology meets resources.
In Ukraine you have supported the force whose only slogan was: "Knife the Russians/hang the Russians (москалей на ножи/москаляку на гиляку") and then supported it and still do support of the bloody onslaught of Donetsk and Lugantsk whose citizens just took arms in rebellion vs. the anti-constitutional coup you have initiated and supported with the whole strength of your brainwashing media.
And you honestly thought we will not reply?
Idiots!
Now you whine about us intervening into your election (without any proofs)?
That is not even funny now!!!
Because you are involved in regime changes and vote manipulation all around the globe anywhere during the last century (including Russia in 1996, 2011 and your support to Eltsin in 1993, when he sent tanks to destroy the Russian parliament)!

Even, if what you tell about us is true (which is not) it's all about retaliation.

What goes around, comes around, idiots!

All of that makes you the greatest threat humanity ever had. The Rome didn't have nukes to nuke the whole World, when it was losing its domination,
but you have!
Now for an objective, inevitable, historical reasons US of A is losing its role as a World's major bloodsucker and you will lose it sooner or later (in fact, China is the Worlds largest economy already, while you are still living in debt year after year). But, you will never give up your bloodsucking role without a fight, just like any other empire. You would prefer to kill everyone, then to just back-off.

You are the late Rome with nukes!

That is the most dangerous thing for humanity, not an incoming meteorite or something.

So, we have no choice, but to arm ourselves.

[Serb]

... and we will bury you for sure, if you don't stop!

[Serb]

But, since you won't understand a single word I have said earlier, let me summarize it in a way of my Greek brother Paiktis:

F*CK YOU!!!

The whole World hates you for a reason! Not you as an individuals, but your f*cking empire of lies!

[Serb]

Your own vassals whom you call "allies" hate you. Right, Germans? Japans?

[Serb]

You are all f*cking alone in your craziness, America!

[Proteus_MST]

Nope. It's in serial production already)))
Besides, it's funny to hear something about numbers from a German. Just how much any kind of tanks you have in your Bundeswehr right now?
200+?


Nope. IIRC, That upgrade for Leo, known as "MBT Revolution" was first shown in 2011, four years before the T-14 have appeared, but nobody really cared about it and considered it as revolution. Then, we have shown T-14 and you have re-appeared and started to promote your "MBT Revolution" as a reply to a Soviet threat, because you have nothing better. That is hilarious!

Soviet threat?
Well, at the time when there still was a"soviet threat" germany had 1800 tanks.
And the last tank that was in development to counter a "soviet threat" ws the PzKW 2000 (which actually would have incorporated a 2 man crew in the tanks hull, similar to the Armata (and that as already before the 1990s).

But the soviet union was disbanded more than a quarter century ago and in the wake of inreasingly friendly relationships between europe and the countries of the former USSR (including russia) the german government decided to vastly reduce its tank forces and also put the concept of the PzKpfW 2000 on ice (and instead decided to prolong the lifetime of the Leopard 2 by further upgrades), especially considering that even 9/11 and the increasing threat by terrorists (and the demand for peacekeeping operations) wasn't present in the 90s and a large military force therefore was seen as unneccessary

And yes, the Leo 2 Revolution was already presented in 2011 ... and the german army didn't order any of them ... because it was very expensive and they got their job done very well with the already existing Leopard 2A5 and Leo 2A6.
The MBT Revolution was revolutionary already then, but we don't order expensive MBTs just to reserve some bragging rights.

The job that was to be done by our Leopards (around 2011) was just peacekeeping operations (like in Afghanistan) ... for which, as said, the Leopards 2A5 and 2A6 were sufficient (if you have to fasten 1 million screws ... what would you give your workers? A simple normal screwdriver for 0.5 € apiece? Or a High Tech sonic screwdriver that costs 1000 € apiece and actually doesn't get the job done faster, but has hundreds of additional functions (which, for simply fastening a screw, however, would be unneccessary)

In 2011 we still falsely believed that Russia (under Putin) was a trustworthy ally and would respect treaties (like the one where Russia would guarantee/respect Ukrainas borders in exchange for Ukraina giving up its nuclear weapons) and the borders of its neighbors.
As we now know this was a false hope ... and considering how things changed (with russia again being a possible threat) germany (and other european states) again are in the process of increasing their military spending (and developing their MBT forces ... both, in term of numbers and also in terms of technical sophistication).
Therefore also the MBT Revolution now has become viable again ... not for peacekeeping operations, but in order to incrase the combat power and deter people like yourself, who still dream of the past "soviet glories", from thinking that (just like it were the soviet plans in the 80s) you can just steamroll the western european states and then rule over all of europe

You have stolen our invention!

The concept of olympic games / large scale competition among several countries was stolen from the greek ... and the concept of a tank was stolen from the british which on their own stole it from Leonardo da Vinci

[Serb]

"Dance Russia, dance, while Europe is crying, because I have the most beautiful butt in the World"

I love you Korea!
Amazing performance!!!