How cheap would commercial spaceflight have to be before Flat Eartherism died out?

[The Mad Monk]

The glass in the viewports of the spacecraft is designed to warp the view of the earth. Elok Musk can't fool me!

[-Jrabbit]

I guess what I don't understand is what flat earthers believe to be the point of the alleged "globular conspiracy."

I figured it was as simple as "Bible says earth is flat; anything else is heresy" but apparently The Flat Earth Society believes that agencies like NASA are embezzling huge sums, using only a fraction of their funding to maintain the illusion of space exploration and a spherical Earth.

Here is their wiki's FAQ page. It's quite a trip: https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

[rah]

I don't think many conspiracy wackos really have a clue as to the motivation for whatever one they're trying to prove.
It's par of their madness. Or it's just part of a religion so it's crazy to begin with.

[pchang]

An actual space elevator is much more likely to be a passive cable made from really strong materials. While an active attack to cut it down would result in a lot of damage to the ground, I don't think it would be as bad as in the anime. Anything above the break point, would be slung out into space. Half the remaining stuff (I posit would be made of carbon nanotubes) would probably burn up in the atmosphere before striking the earth. The remaining stuff would cause quite a bit of devastation, but only in a very narrow, though wandering, path.

[Jon Miller]

I don't think many conspiracy wackos really have a clue as to the motivation for whatever one they're trying to prove.
It's par of their madness. Or it's just part of a religion so it's crazy to begin with.

I don't think the religiosity of a society correlates well with craziness. For example, Sweden is is mostly post-religion but very big on horoscopes.

So I would argue such beliefs are a 'human' thing and not a 'religion' thing.

JM
(For someone who I believe is religious, you do come across as pretty anti-religion.)

[Lorizael]

I guess what I don't understand is what flat earthers believe to be the point of the alleged "globular conspiracy."

I figured it was as simple as "Bible says earth is flat; anything else is heresy" but apparently The Flat Earth Society believes that agencies like NASA are embezzling huge sums, using only a fraction of their funding to maintain the illusion of space exploration and a spherical Earth.

Here is their wiki's FAQ page. It's quite a trip: https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

A lot of flat earthers are pretty explicit about the belief that a spherical world in a heliocentric universe makes humans and the earth less special and possibly even meaningless. So they come to believe that the point of the conspiracy is destroy human meaningfulness so that... humans are more easily controlled... or that religion loses its influence... those kinds of things.

[Proteus_MST]

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Here is their wiki's FAQ page. It's quite a trip: https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

I they are so sure about ther proposed map of the world, then i wonder why noone of them did an expedition to Antarctica, in order to prove their model of the world.
I mean, if the ice of Antarctica really surrounds th whole earth disk, then, I guess, Antarcticas coast line must be much longer than the coast line of real Antarctica.

So, they just would have to travel (with a fixed speed) along the coast of Antarctica (from one known Landmark until they seee this landmark again) and do the same with a landmass near the center of the disk (maybe the actic ice) an then compare if the ratio betweeen the coast length of Actica and Antarctica its into the model of a flat earth (or if it would fit better into the round earth globes we use today)

[-Jrabbit]

Or they could just fly over the edge. Apparently the "ice wall that holds the oceans in" is just 145 feet in elevation.

Which brings up an other question: Are flat earthers also climate change deniers? What do they think would happen should the southern ice cap melt?

[Proteus_MST]

Just looked a little bit around in their Forums ... they really have a big similarity with Kid and his Trumpism (or Ben sometimes) ... especially when it comes to how they try to dodge any uncomfortable questions that they cannot explain with their flat earth model.
For example when they are asked about providing mathematical formulae that allow to predict solar clipses on a flat earth

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/...?topic=63176.0

[rah]

(For someone who I believe is religious, you do come across as pretty anti-religion.)

I don't understand how any modern man doesn't continually challenge their own beliefs. Not to, to me, it reduces it to cult status.
I was never one for blind faith. I do accept that there are things I may not understand.

[-Jrabbit]

Their global map also distorts distances between countries.
It's pretty funny, actually.

[giblets]

It's a wonder the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor when they could have just as easily sailed to California.

[Elok]

(For someone who I believe is religious, you do come across as pretty anti-religion.)

Possibly relevant: it's been observed that religious antagonism tends to be strongest between groups whose beliefs vary only mildly. People feel the urge to differentiate themselves strongly from people who seem somewhat similar, and thus might be confused, or have a subtle corrupting influence. So the Ottomans were relatively mild to Christians and Jews, but savage to Shiites, while the Crusaders came to hate the Byzantines far more than the Muslims. The Byzantines themselves felt quite strongly about the Monophysites, and others whose beliefs differed from their own in a very abstruse way, but could coexist to some extent with Jews, pagans, or even Muslims. Before them, Jews couldn't bear early Christians, but could be civil to pagans. Etc.

[Jon Miller]

I don't understand how any modern man doesn't continually challenge their own beliefs. Not to, to me, it reduces it to cult status.
I was never one for blind faith. I do accept that there are things I may not understand.

There is a strong tradition of this in religion.

But it doesn't relate at all to

Or it's just part of a religion so it's crazy to begin with.

which is a general and pretty extreme attack (There are plenty of atheists who would not say that).

JM

[rah]

You take offense too easy. If part of a conspiracy theory is religious based it doesn't make it any less crazy. But those seem to be even more crazy.