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  • DHS releases data on immigration that has been kept hidden

    On March 6, 2017, the President issued aMemorandum for the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security on Implementing Immediate Heightened Screening and Vetting of Applications for Visas and Other Immigration Benefits, Ensuring Enforcement of All Laws for Entry into the United States, and Increasing Transparency among Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government and for the American People.

    The Memorandum directs the Department of Homeland Security to issue quarterly reports detailing the number of adjustments of immigration status that occurred during the reporting period, disaggregated by type of adjustment, type and detailed class of admission, and country of nationality. This report has been prepared by the Department’s Office of Immigration Statistics to comply with the President’s directive.

    The report describes legal immigration and adjustments of status and provides links to data tables within four categories:
    OIS has historically reported on immigration benefits annually, with data collection beginning three months after the end of the fiscal year. This quarterly report provides information about legal migration and adjustments of status based on data available one month after the end of the reporting period. OIS will provide revised figures for previous quarters in future reports as additional data become available.


    These numbers are shocking. I don't know how open borders advocates can tell people with a straight face that immigration doesn't negatively affect regular people who are struggling to make ends meet and paying taxes. What a scam.
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    IIRC refugees have a lower crime rate than natural born US citizens ... so a steady stream of refugees might atually lower the US crime rate

    As for non refugee naturalizations ... yes, those Canadians and Chinese and British surely will wreak havoc on the US
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
      IIRC refugees have a lower crime rate than natural born US citizens ... so a steady stream of refugees might atually lower the US crime rate

      As for non refugee naturalizations ... yes, those Canadians and Chinese and British surely will wreak havoc on the US
      Too many refugees has a destabilizing effect on society. Your thinking is too simplistic, as liberal thinking usually is.
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      • #4
        Kidiot
        Keep on Civin'
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

          Too many refugees has a destabilizing effect on society. Your thinking is too simplistic, as liberal thinking usually is.
          25.000 refugees in a quartal is not much, considering that the population of the USA numbers ~300 million
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          • #6
            Refugees destabilized the British Empire in the second half of the 18th century, esp. in North America
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

              25.000 refugees in a quartal is not much, considering that the population of the USA numbers ~300 million
              Not if they are coming to a job that an American doesn't want. Otherwise maybe 25,000 Americans will be out of a job and turn to crime.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                Not if they are coming to a job that an American doesn't want. Otherwise maybe 25,000 Americans will be out of a job and turn to crime.
                I am sure that most refugees are not as spoiled as most americans ... and will take a job if it is presented to them.
                Considering that many jobs that americans don't want will go vacant, as soon as Trump begins to throw out the Mexicans, I am sure there will be enough jobs for them.

                But you seem to think very bad of your fellow americans, if you think that they will become criminal if they lose their job (or don't get one).
                If becoming criminal is the only way for US citizens to sustain themselves after becoming jobless, then maybe the US government should think about better state welfare
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                • #9
                  I see nothing wrong with the American people being given additional detailed information. I would also like to see information on which people from which countries use how much in net government social benefits. There is nothing wrong with increasing immigration from countries which mostly supply people who are net contributors while restricting numbers from countries which mostly supply people who are net takers. That is just common sense.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

                    I am sure that most refugees are not as spoiled as most americans ... and will take a job if it is presented to them.
                    Considering that many jobs that americans don't want will go vacant, as soon as Trump begins to throw out the Mexicans, I am sure there will be enough jobs for them.

                    But you seem to think very bad of your fellow americans, if you think that they will become criminal if they lose their job (or don't get one).
                    If becoming criminal is the only way for US citizens to sustain themselves after becoming jobless, then maybe the US government should think about better state welfare
                    Did you see the der spiegel article about so many asylum applicants in Germany using the welfare money they receive from the German taxpayers going back home on vacation? These are people who falsely filed asylum applications claiming their old homes were just too dangerous and unsafe to be at yet they happily and willingly go back for vacations? Can it be any more obvious they are lying conmen just gaming your welfare system for free money and housing?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

                      I am sure that most refugees are not as spoiled as most americans ... and will take a job if it is presented to them.
                      Considering that many jobs that americans don't want will go vacant, as soon as Trump begins to throw out the Mexicans, I am sure there will be enough jobs for them.

                      But you seem to think very bad of your fellow americans, if you think that they will become criminal if they lose their job (or don't get one).
                      If becoming criminal is the only way for US citizens to sustain themselves after becoming jobless, then maybe the US government should think about better state welfare
                      Corporations are bringing refugees here and paying them less. That's pretty common knowledge. I would try to shame you for your horrible opinion but what's the use?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                        Corporations are bringing refugees here and paying them less. That's pretty common knowledge. I would try to shame you for your horrible opinion but what's the use?
                        It was you who claimed that those americans who lose their jobs (because of refugees) will become criminals
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

                          It was you who claimed that those americans who lose their jobs (because of refugees) will become criminals
                          Well everyone knows the relationship between unemployment and crime. That's why we try to get people jobs after they get out of prison.
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                          • #14
                            Big difference between
                            the relationship between unemployment and crime
                            and
                            Otherwise maybe 25,000 Americans will be out of a job and turn to crime.
                            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dinner View Post

                              Did you see the der spiegel article about so many asylum applicants in Germany using the welfare money they receive from the German taxpayers going back home on vacation? These are people who falsely filed asylum applications claiming their old homes were just too dangerous and unsafe to be at yet they happily and willingly go back for vacations? Can it be any more obvious they are lying conmen just gaming your welfare system for free money and housing?
                              Sure, dividing real refugees from those who come here for the money is always a problem.
                              Actually an even bigger problem is, to deport people whose refugee status has been revoked (for example because they have been labeled as economic refugees)
                              If they lost their papers of their country of origin (or intentionally threw them away) those countries of origin often refuse to issue replacement papers (or delay it for months or even years), so the refugees cannot be deported back home (as even rejected refugees are subject to the rules of law, they cannot just be thrown out over their home countries (if they cannot enter them, due to lacking papers).

                              But there is a big difference between the USA and germany (and other EU countries). The vetting of refugees who want to come into the USA is extreme and may take month or years. And only a small percentage of those who apply for refugee status in he USA are actually taken. I guess the vetting also includes checking the motives for coming to the USA (i.e. the probability for them being economic refugees, instead of really being persecuted (or in danger because of war) in their country of origin)

                              In contrast to this, it is far easier to get into germany (for one, germany (and the EU)) is much closer to the countries of origin of most refugees (whereas the refugees have to cross the atlantic to get to the USA), for the other, the vetting is much less extreme (for a short period of time (at the beginning of the ISIS crisis) there actually was no vetting in place at all), so it is also easier to get into germany (or EU countries) if yu are an economic refugee (actually it is a dilemma ... many refugees came/come across the mediterranean sea, so it is often a question of whether one lets them drown in their often not seaworth boats, or if on rescues them at sea, when their overloaded boats are going down)

                              So, complaining about 25k (and less) refugees per quartal (who only get into the country after extreme vetting) sounds like a luxury problem to me
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