A Day Without Sharia

[grumbler]

Do you believe Gandhi advocated violence?

I expect you to not understand my point.

When did Gandhi say be was bearing a sword? Or is this question of yours just another red herring?

[grumbler]

This boils down to "but, but, but... Believers have in the past not followed their religion." While that is true it also completely misses the point. Yes, there is a very real material difference between a religion where god supposedly told his followers to kill people and go on killing people and ones which explicitly say not to do that. Islam is uniquely repugnant and unreformable because of this.

The God the Christians worship supposedly told his followers to kill people (even infants and the aged). Is Christianity also "uniquely repugnant and unreformable because of this?"

[grumbler]

No. Most of them do not. Fact.

Thus why Christians do not follow old testiment commands like not eating pork or not wearing clothing of mixed fibers, etc... The heart of Christianity is the teachings of Christ and the old testiment is seen as background information by most Christian groups.

Hell, I am an atheist and even I know that.

Interesting. That whole Ten Commandments thing isn't important to Christians, then? Those who espouse it aren't real Christians?

[grumbler]

Jesus said his movement would bring violence upon his followers, he didn't tell them to be violent... And if "even Jesus used violent imagery" is your idea, who are you comparing him to? Thats what "even" means, in addition to... You said:



You were even blaming Jesus for the violence because he warned his followers they will be the victims of it. Yet you're comparing him to Muhammad who repeatedly endorsed doing violence to others. If MLK told his followers they will have dogs and water cannons turned on them, would you accuse MLK of using violent imagery?

Jesus didn't say his followers would be victims of violence. He said that he came to "send a... sword." Now, you can interpret that how you will, but the idea that Islam uses violent imagery and Christianity does not is a misconception. God tells his followers to kill babies.

[giblets]

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Religion of peace.

[Kidlicious]

Hacking the Bible as an argument for atheism is the ultimate twaddle.

[Proteus_MST]

Hacking the Bible as an argument for atheism is the ultimate twaddle.

Strawman argument.

Noone said that people should "convert" to Atheism.

The bible passages were just taken to counter the claims that christianity is (in contrast to islam) a religion of peace.
The bible contains lots of passages that in the past have been taken, are currently taken (by certain christian groups) and probably also in the future will be taken to incite violence against other groups (be it of a different religion, a different sexual orientation, or a differnt colour of skin)
(I linked an article in a previous posting, where several american christian pastors are cited who not only are totally O.K., with the Orlando shooting, but evven expressed regret, that not more gays have been killed by it)

History has proven that christianity, if taught byy preachers with the wrong mindset (and left with too much influence on politics and be allowed to gain too much fanaticism in thhe general population), can be as dangerous as Islamism

[Kidlicious]

Strawman argument.

Noone said that people should "convert" to Atheism.

The bible passages were just taken to counter the claims that christianity is (in contrast to islam) a religion of peace.
The bible contains lots of passages that in the past have been taken, are currently taken (by certain christian groups) and probably also in the future will be taken to incite violence against other groups (be it of a different religion, a different sexual orientation, or a differnt colour of skin)
(I linked an article in a previous posting, where several american christian pastors are cited who not only are totally O.K., with the Orlando shooting, but evven expressed regret, that not more gays have been killed by it)

History has proven that christianity, if taught byy preachers with the wrong mindset (and left with too much influence on politics and be allowed to gain too much fanaticism in thhe general population), can be as dangerous as Islamism

This is just lies. First, you are lying about your motivation. It isn't to "convert" us to anti-Christian (I said atheist, but there isn't any difference). It's to defend a violent religion, Islam. And second, yes you ARE hacking the Bible. So you are hacking the Bible, which promotes non-violence and condemns violence, to defend a religion that promote violence, oppression and tyranny.

[Aeson]

Personally I find the idea of torturing souls for all eternity because they didn't believe in you to be a bit lacking in peacefulness.

[Kidlicious]

Personally I find the idea of torturing souls for all eternity because they didn't believe in you to be a bit lacking in peacefulness.

Adam actually got punished for not believing God's Word. He obviously believed in God.

[BeBMan]

Bebro, probably the most kind hearted poster on Poly and he's the only one kid got angry at.


You need to toughen up Bebro, learn to smack people around. (metaphorically)

Next time I'll use angry smilies instead of lulz for smiley bombs. That will teach him

[Bereta_Eder]

I created a monster

[giblets]

Flooding the entire world sure is peaceful.

[-Jrabbit]

Eternal damnation for over 2/3 of the world's population (the non-Christians) is also very just and merciful.

Makes you wonder how anyone got to heaven in the BC years...not to mention the vast swaths of the world who never heard of Jesus in the first millennium or so after his death.

[Kidlicious]

Eternal damnation for over 2/3 of the world's population (the non-Christians) is also very just and merciful.

Makes you wonder how anyone got to heaven in the BC years...not to mention the vast swaths of the world who never heard of Jesus in the first millennium or so after his death.

No participation trophy for snowflakes.