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  • I don't agree with your figures. Democrats will viciously attack any republican woman. Ivanka is just an easy target for them because she is beautiful and classy, everything they really want to be but aren't. Look at Kelly Ann Conway, who isn't as upper class. She is successful, like Ivanka who made most of her money herself, that's why they hate her. She doesn't need feminism. In fact she wants no part of it because she doesn't want to be associated with those people. Or look at Bill Clinton's accusers who are even more hated, and less successful, but since they aren't democrats.

    I mean you calling me a misogynist is all anyone needs to know to make a proper decision not to be a liberal.
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    • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

      Also, the article doesn't just accuse her of being upper class. It accuses her of being feminine and supporting male power.
      These are all facts, not "accusations."

      Also interesting that JR seems to think that it's no big deal that a woman was attacked because she is upper class. Care to comment?
      As I stated, the opinion of the writer is neither surprising nor especially controversial. This essay did not cause any heads to explode. Except, apparently, Kid's.

      When any public figure is attacked, it is not a big deal. Almost no one in the public eye gets a free pass. This situation is the equivalent of the rich on the left who are "accused" of being limousine liberals. I don't care about that, either.

      Ivanka's a grown-up; she can handle it.

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      • If the best revenge is "living well" Ivanka seems to be getting plenty of revenge.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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        • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post

          These are all facts, not "accusations."
          Not mutually exclusive

          Accusing women of being feminine and supporting family members is absolutely unacceptable to everyone who gives a damn about women. Apparently that doesn't include you, most of the people here, or the writer.
          As I stated, the opinion of the writer is neither surprising nor especially controversial.
          Ah, so attacking women is neither controversial or surprising? When did this come about?

          When any public figure is attacked, it is not a big deal.
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          Yes it is when you are attacking women for being feminine.
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          Almost no one in the public eye gets a free pass.
          Actually decent people agree that women and children should get a pass.
          This situation is the equivalent of the rich on the left who are "accused" of being limousine liberals. I don't care about that, either.
          I don't care about that either because it's nothing like attacking women for being feminine. Attacking rich liberals is nothing like attacking women. Do you live under a rock, or are you just playing stupid?
          Ivanka's a grown-up; she can handle it.
          Of course she can handle it because she is an actual strong women, not one that claims to be and plays the victim. But that doesn't mean this writer isn't horrible for attacking her, and it doesn't mean that you aren't horrible for defending her.
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          • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            Actually decent people agree that women and children should get a pass.
            Hence your outrage at the attacks on Hillary Clinton
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            • I refuse to defend someone who calls herself a feminist and calls rape victims liars. I have other reasons not to defend her as well.

              All though I give her credit for not being as horrible as Obama and pretty much every single journalist in the world.
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              • So when you say "women should get a pass" you mean "upper class Republican women should get a pass"
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                • Women don't get a pass to call rape victims liars. They get a pass for being innocent. Ivanka is not guilty of one thing, and she is in fact a real feminist as well as a role model for girls and an inspiration to women.
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                  • Kidicious wishes he were Ivanka Trump.

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                    • More importantly, would he tell Ivanka she was wearing a vagina hat? (to her face anyway)
                      But I'm sure He'll cop out by saying that she would never wear a p*ssy cap.
                      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                      • Clearly Ivanka Trump is the real victim of sexism.

                        "How Saying Ivanka Trump Is ‘Thirsty’ for Justin Trudeau Hurts All Women"

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                        • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                          Not mutually exclusive
                          Incorrect. A fact is a fact. An accusation is a charge or claim based on those facts. Buy a dictionary.

                          Accusing women of being feminine and supporting family members is absolutely unacceptable to everyone who gives a damn about women. Apparently that doesn't include you, most of the people here, or the writer.
                          I think the key here is Ivanka claiming that Donald is a feminist. That is laughably false. She can defend and love her daddy all she wants, but it does not exempt her from opposing views.

                          Ah, so attacking women is neither controversial or surprising? When did this come about?
                          Yes it is when you are attacking women for being feminine.
                          Feminists attacking faux feminism is neither controversial nor surprising. Attacking a public figure's public statements is also fair game.
                          Thinking that the attack is based on Ivanka's looks is a just reflection of your personal bias against, and lack of understanding of, feminism.

                          Actually decent people agree that women and children should get a pass.
                          Sorry, but gender equality requires that Ivanka Trump is subject to the same troll culture as any other public figure, male or female. If women are equal, they don't get a pass. And no one is attacking children in this case.

                          I don't care about that either because it's nothing like attacking women for being feminine.
                          Why do you persist in this ridiculous assumption? I maintain that it is Ivanka's brand of feminism that is under attack. Your belief that it's because she's pretty/feminine is all in your head. It is a small part of the writer's thesis.

                          Of course she can handle it because she is an actual strong women, not one that claims to be and plays the victim. But that doesn't mean this writer isn't horrible for attacking her, and it doesn't mean that you aren't horrible for defending her.
                          I'm not defending the article; I'm trying to explain it to someone with the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader.
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                          • Originally posted by rah View Post
                            More importantly, would he tell Ivanka she was wearing a vagina hat? (to her face anyway)
                            But I'm sure He'll cop out by saying that she would never wear a p*ssy cap.
                            Those radfems could murder born babies and rah would call anyone a woman hater who said they should probably not do that.

                            JR, I will of course respond to you later.
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                            • Kidicious is unbeatable.
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                              • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                                Those radfems could murder born babies and rah would call anyone a woman hater who said they should probably not do that.

                                JR, I will of course respond to you later.
                                Well, so far, all you've done is demonstrate a remarkable inability to separate fact from opinion, along with your logic-challenged "debate" style. I would call your arguments intellectually dishonest, but I think you actually believe what you write.

                                Since I know you won't stop until you've had the last word, I'll simply announce that I've had my say and am done with this thread.

                                So sure, Kid, take your time and give it your best shot. Keep digging!
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