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  • #16
    A sexist douche is president, no wonder Kid supports him.

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    • #17
      Kid spends more time reading headlines than the rest of the articles.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

        It doesn't say that Melania wants to do all the work. It says that Trump refuses to do any childcare work.
        That is equal to Melania not wanting to do all the childcare work, but when she asks Donald to take part in it he always says "No"

        It also says that Donald "boasts" about always refusing to do chhildcare work ... with other words, Trumps seems to think refusing to do childcare work is something he can be proud of (just like ***** grabbing)
        This is nonsense. I listen to too much nonsense from liberals. I don't have time for this.

        So you don't say what "supports male power means." It means she loves her father which to feminists is a reason to hate women.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

          This is nonsense. I listen to too much nonsense from liberals. I don't have time for this.

          So you don't say what "supports male power means." It means she loves her father which to feminists is a reason to hate women.
          If you took the time to actually read the article you would know that his is nonsense and nowhere to be found in the article.
          The only thing regarding Ivanka and her father that is found is, that she is delusional as she thinks he is a feminist, despite his behavior (like his boasting about refusing to do any childhood care) showing otherwise.
          Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
          Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

            If you took the time to actually read the article you would know that his is nonsense and nowhere to be found in the article.
            The only thing regarding Ivanka and her father that is found is, that she is delusional as she thinks he is a feminist, despite his behavior (like his boasting about refusing to do any childhood care) showing otherwise.
            Really? Why isn't he a feminist?

            And go read the article again. It accuses her of supporting male power. Maybe have reading problem?
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #21
              Kidicious is PWNing soem serious ass in this thrade right now.
              The Wizard of AAHZ

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                Really? Why isn't he a feminist?

                And go read the article again. It accuses her of supporting male power. ...
                It is rather that, for her father, she sells her own success to promote the backwardness of the republican conservative picture of the woman:

                And Ms. Trump has used the carefully cultivated image of her own career and family to sell both her brand and her father’s political ambitions. Her Instagram feed is full of images with motivational captions about the importance of stay-at-home motherhood or maternal multitasking, often with the hashtag #WomenWhoWork. “I have a few very important roles, but being a mother will always be my favorite,” she posted with a family photo.
                ...
                She’s also a woman who sells this image strategically. The white working-class Americans to whom Ms. Trump’s father directed many of his appeals hew more closely to traditional views of marital obligations and gender norms than those who are college educated
                ...
                Her push for paid parental leave is certainly laudable and especially out of the box for the Republican Party, but the policy she urged her father to propose wasn’t really about parents — it offered maternity leave only, emphasizing that the task of raising children remains the domain of women (even “women who work”).
                Nothing in the text that claims that the love for her father is the problem ... only that she tries to sell family role models of the 1960s, because that's the ones that appeal the most to the majority of conservatives in her fathers party


                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                Maybe have reading problem?
                Yes, maybe you have ... but I don't hold it against you ... after all it was a long wall of text
                Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

                  It is rather that, for her father, she sells her own success to promote the backwardness of the republican conservative picture of the woman:



                  Nothing in the text that claims that the love for her father is the problem ... only that she tries to sell family role models of the 1960s, because that's the ones that appeal the most to the majority of conservatives in her fathers party




                  Yes, maybe you have ... but I don't hold it against you ... after all it was a long wall of text
                  "But while Ms. Trump has found both professional and personal success by enjoying many of the benefits of feminism, she is far from an avatar of a feminist future. Instead, she’s a kind of post-feminist huckster, selling us traditional femininity and support of male power wrapped up in a feminist bow."

                  I asked you to please stop wasting my time. You did not establish that Trump promotes traditional gender roles. What does that mean? I need exact quotes to know exactly what you are talking about so that you can not falsely accuse him. Then we will talk about if that makes him a non-feminist
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • #24
                    I have given you exact quotes ... obviously she promotes "Stay at home mums" as success stories and also was promoting "maternal leaves" (that is, where only the mother may get some time off after the birth) instead of "paternal leaves" (where either the mother or the father get some time off after the birth).

                    It is obvious that she promotes the "Woman cares for all the household, even if she has a job while mans duty only is to have a job ... and maybe occasionally has to get out the trash", just like the conservatives among the republicans want to have it (and probably her father as well)
                    (instead of a role model in which it can also be the mans duty to raise the kids or do the household, while the woman has a full time job)
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                    • #25
                      I do not see any D. Trump quotes. Are you lying again?
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #26
                        There are no Donald Trump quotes necessary.

                        But, as I said ... I don't blame you for not understanding the text ... the text requires knowledge of many advanced concepts that are terra incognita for many republicans (like that of a "stay at home dad") that cannot be taken for granted
                        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                        • #27
                          You falsely accuse my president and his beautiful daughter. Piss off then you arrogant liar.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                            You falsely accuse my president and his beautiful daughter. Piss off then you arrogant liar.
                            I have to admit that you are right on 2 things in this posting:
                            He is your president ... and his daughter is good looking
                            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                            • #29
                              And you are a lying hypocrite that evidently can't read.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                                And you are a lying hypocrite that evidently can't read.
                                Well, if I were that would be no big problem, after all I am not in any public function for the german government.

                                It becomes a big problem, however, if the POTUS is a lying hypocrite who evidently can't read
                                Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                                Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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