Hillary Clinton, the Goldwater Girls and Margaret Sanger

[kentonio]

I'm amused that we have eugenics proponents here on Apolyton. Which, was what I was trying to smoke out all along. Yes, I'm glad to know which people here support it.

You really are one of the stupidest, most self absorbed people it's ever been my misfortune to meet, and the saddest part is that I think you genuinely believe your own bull****. You're so idiotically arrogant that you don't even bother listening to the people you 'communicate' with, you just start out full of your own self-righteousness and assume that anyone disagreeing must be utterly wrong, because how could the great Ben Kenobi possibly be wrong? You could actually have a decent mind, but instead its so inflated with self importance, that you end up coming across as worse than an idiot.

Margaret Sanger was a eugenics proponent as not a single person here has denied, and certainly no-one has defended. That belief however was not intrinsically tied into racism, which Sanger showed by her tireless work alongside the African American community, and her frequent attacks on those practicing white supremacy. None of that makes her beliefs in eugenics any less deplorable, but neither does it make her a racist. You keep repeating false quotes and perhaps worse quotes taken totally out of context like the following..

We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members

Yes, Sanger certainly said this. What did it mean? Did it mean that she had a secret agenda and was scared that her evil plan would be exposed? Or did it perhaps much more logically mean that she didn't want the false idea to spread that a program intended for positive means would be misunderstood as an attempt to annihilate an entire race? Every serious historian understands the latter, but then those who want to find any weapon possible to attack her choose the former. Because apparently her being a supporter of eugenics just isn't enough, you have to add a pile of lies on top which end up seriously undermining your entire position like a complete idiot.

I'm not going to bother to reply to any more of your inane bull**** because quite frankly I feel stupider just by entering into conversation with you. For a person who claims to be a member of a religion based on humility, your arrogance is frankly incredible. I've said it many times, but never meant it more than right now: Jesus would be disgusted by you.

[rah]

You really are one of the stupidest, most self absorbed people it's ever been my misfortune to meet, and the saddest part is that I think you genuinely believe your own bull****. You're so idiotically arrogant that you don't even bother listening to the people you 'communicate' with, you just start out full of your own self-righteousness and assume that anyone disagreeing must be utterly wrong, because how could the great Ben Kenobi possibly be wrong? You could actually have a decent mind, but instead its so inflated with self importance, that you end up coming across as worse than an idiot.

One of the best assessments of Sean that I've read. Well crafted.

[Berzerker]

Isn't nature and evolution based on eugenics? God wanted his chosen people to avoid diluting the blood line, and many cultures frown on that.