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  • #61
    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    He won't answer because he knows he is wrong. Higher prices on the daily things poor people need does not help the poor and everyone benefits from those lower prices and increased competition on the macro scale. The money saved due to those lower prices can then be used in other ways either to help raise living standards or to increase savings and investment thus helping to improve the economy.

    Note to Fez: None of this has anything to do with "Reaganomics" which is an argument about top marginal tax rates. Please at least know what terms mean before you throw them around.
    This is pie in the sky nonsense coming from the new Fez on here. Dinner, you do not understand other countries and problems, so stop trying to prescribe a solution. I am not the first one who has said this. You never back yourself up and you are intellectually dishonest.

    You don't even know what Reaganomics is. You just advocate something that destroys other countries. Free trade destroys the economy of the smaller country so the bigger can exploit it. This has nothing to do with the tariffs.

    Dinner... the one who never provides any form of proof and logic is asking me to believe his propaganda.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #62
      BTW, I am all in favor of negotiating fair trade agreements, such as negotiated mutually beneficial tariff reductions. But please don't spout off BS that this is what free trade is. Free trade is where one big country or megacorporations exploits smaller countries. Niger delta anyone?
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #63
        Free trade destroys the economy of the smaller country so the bigger
        Unless the smaller country has a valuable resource. Like OIL,
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
          This is absolutely irrelevant to any point I am making. It is obvious you have bought into neocorportatist propaganda. My point has nothing to do with tariffs. Reread what I HAVE WROTE.
          Of course it's relevant, as Free Trade is in essence the removal of barriers to trade, the largest of which is tariffs.
          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
            Of course it's relevant, as Free Trade is in essence the removal of barriers to trade, the largest of which is tariffs.
            That isn't what free trade really is. Free trade is where big countries exploit smaller ones, generally for material wealth. Fair trade agreements are a different matter.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #66
              Originally posted by rah View Post
              Unless the smaller country has a valuable resource. Like OIL,
              The Niger Delta is a fine example of that... Oh wait...

              Also, oil wealth generally only favors the elite. The wealth disparities in Saudi Arabia are absolutely huge.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #67
                Nigeria and Saudi Arabia are part of OPEC, that well known Free Trade organisation.
                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                  Nigeria and Saudi Arabia are part of OPEC, that well known Free Trade organisation.
                  Whoosh. Missed the point.

                  Doesn't do **** to help the poor in either country. Nigeria especially. Free trade = capitalist propaganda.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #69
                    You realise that was sarcasm, right?
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • #70
                      Don't care.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #71
                        You cited two countries with problems supposedly due to Free Trade, and both derive most of their money from being in an oil cartel. The antithesis of Free Trade.
                        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                        • #72
                          When the wall fell mcdonalds started to set shop in poland.
                          there already was a local chain of traditional food there.
                          it was cheap affordable and relatively healthy.

                          mcdonalds set shop and lowered the price of their products below that of the local polish food chain.

                          mcdonalds in poland operated in a loss but they had the mothercompany filling in with money from abroad.

                          the local food chain couldn't stand the competition.
                          it closed down. people lost their jobs. people lost their local healthy food.

                          when this happened, mcdonalds raised the cost of their products higher than what the local food chains had.

                          yeah
                          free trade is bad

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                            You cited two countries with problems supposedly due to Free Trade, and both derive most of their money from being in an oil cartel. The antithesis of Free Trade.
                            This isn't what happened in Nigeria, who opened itself up to exploitation by mega companies. Pay attention. You keep defending economic slavery.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                              When the wall fell mcdonalds started to set shop in poland.
                              there already was a local chain of traditional food there.
                              it was cheap affordable and relatively healthy.

                              mcdonalds set shop and lowered the price of their products below that of the local polish food chain.

                              mcdonalds in poland operated in a loss but they had the mothercompany filling in with money from abroad.

                              the local food chain couldn't stand the competition.
                              it closed down. people lost their jobs. people lost their local healthy food.

                              when this happened, mcdonalds raised the cost of their products higher than what the local food chains had.

                              yeah
                              free trade is bad
                              Is your complaint against Free Trade, or predatory pricing practices?
                              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                                Buzz buzzz
                                Splat.
                                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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