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  • #466
    Cenk used to be an achor for MSNBC but he had the balls to tell them he quit when they told him to tone it down so stop pretending he is no one. Especially when he has one of the biggest vblogs covering news and politics in the country. That is just one example and the internet is full of others.

    So you can keep lying if you want but each time it just makes you look more unhinged and even furtger detached from reality. Seriously, go back a few pages and reread what Elok told you because he was spot on and you could benefit from a little self reflection.
    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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    • #467
      I cited a significant number of pundits and commentators you refuse to address.

      I do not need self reflection when it comes to my views. You, nor Elok, are in a position to judge me or tell me what I should or shouldn't do. I am very much a realist and pragmatic. So that accusation of being detached from reality. isn't quite true either.

      I will tone down my responses a bit however. I was a bit too harsh.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #468
        I think everybody should just dial it down a notch. Everybody is welcome to their opinion

        In reading through this, both sides raise some good points. But a lot of this is simply opinions and not facts.
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • #469
          You're no fun.

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          • #470
            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
            You're no fun.
            NO ****
            Keep on Civin'
            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #471
              Originally posted by kentonio View Post
              You're no fun.
              Maybe he ought to read the personal insults you are using against me in the other thread. Of course, you call that debating.

              I sometimes wonder why I came back here. Some think they know everything about others they haven't even met.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #472
                Giancarlo, you offered a Clinton campaign shill who naturally claimed his boss is the best thing ever, you then linked to commentary about a nonscientific internet poll, and then a centrist blogger. So please stop pretending you offered anything substantial.


                Given how poorly she is doing in the polls against a guy she should be trouncing she really needed to shine but she came off flat and more than a little robotic. She comes off as just another fake politician when she needs to be human and relatable. She has never campaigned well and she usually does poorly at debates which is why Debbie Schultz tried to shield her from debates during the primaries and then deliberately scheduled them at times where as few people as possible would watch them. In 2008 it was Obama trouncing her in the debates which killed her in the polls and it really doesn't look like she has gotten any better.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #473
                  Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                  Giancarlo, you offered a Clinton campaign shill who naturally claimed his boss is the best thing ever, you then linked to commentary about a nonscientific internet poll, and then a centrist blogger. So please stop pretending you offered anything substantial.


                  Given how poorly she is doing in the polls against a guy she should be trouncing she really needed to shine but she came off flat and more than a little robotic. She comes off as just another fake politician when she needs to be human and relatable. She has never campaigned well and she usually does poorly at debates which is why Debbie Schultz tried to shield her from debates during the primaries and then deliberately scheduled them at times where as few people as possible would watch them. In 2008 it was Obama trouncing her in the debates which killed her in the polls and it really doesn't look like she has gotten any better.
                  And there he goes with more of the lies. You haven't offered much of anything at all. She has certainly improved since 2008, so yeah mistaken again aren't we? Your opinions certainly aren't worth their weight in gold.

                  And your second paragraph is pure opinion and a bit of hysteria mixed in. Her acceptance speech was quite good. By the way, the poll I cited was indeed valid as a poll.

                  She would destroy Trump in a debate. And your opinion on her debating skills... is really nothing more than an opinion.

                  By the way, I wouldn't criticize others for their sources, when you have often not backed up ANY of your arguments. The TYT source was hilarious though.
                  Last edited by Giancarlo; August 1, 2016, 02:32.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #474
                    Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                    Maybe he ought to read the personal insults you are using against me in the other thread. Of course, you call that debating.

                    I sometimes wonder why I came back here. Some think they know everything about others they haven't even met.
                    Personal insults? Wow you really are sensitive if you consider anything I've said to you as a personal insult. Admittedly I did call you delusional once or twice, but given the number of people you've called an idiot in the last week I don't think you can really play the wronged victim.

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                    • #475
                      Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                      Given how poorly she is doing in the polls against a guy she should be trouncing she really needed to shine but she came off flat and more than a little robotic. She comes off as just another fake politician when she needs to be human and relatable. She has never campaigned well and she usually does poorly at debates which is why Debbie Schultz tried to shield her from debates during the primaries and then deliberately scheduled them at times where as few people as possible would watch them. In 2008 it was Obama trouncing her in the debates which killed her in the polls and it really doesn't look like she has gotten any better.
                      It's always been her biggest weakness, she's an extremely intelligent and tough person but she just doesn't seem capable to relating to people in a human way. That incident a few months back when she told the BLM activists 'then I will talk only to white people' was just totally cringeworthy. It's like she can't mentally step back from a situation and consider how things might come across to the other person.

                      Romney was the same in fairness.

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                      • #476
                        It's surprising that she never learned that from Bill. Her husband is a master at "appearing" to relate to people. He was a man of the people and they simply loved him.
                        Now he was a great campaigner. She always comes across as a "plastic" person. Like you say, she is sharp and extremely intelligent, but she always looks like she's wearing a fake smile
                        Keep on Civin'
                        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #477
                          Yeah, maybe its why they worked so well as a couple though, her the brains and him the charisma. He certainly did his fair amount of incredibly dumb **** over the years. Such a brilliant campaigner though, you could see how much Blair copied from him.

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                          • #478
                            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                            Personal insults? Wow you really are sensitive if you consider anything I've said to you as a personal insult. Admittedly I did call you delusional once or twice, but given the number of people you've called an idiot in the last week I don't think you can really play the wronged victim.
                            You are seriously mistaken once again and have made up enough about what I have said. I don't think I will really interact with you anymore. I guess the ignore list is there for a reason.
                            Last edited by Giancarlo; August 1, 2016, 09:19.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #479
                              If you think I'm bad, you're going to love the others.

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                              • #480
                                Bad? As in not very good at this? True that.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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