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  • Why are you giving people who apologize for suicide bombings credibility?
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • Originally posted by loinburger View Post
      Whether something intends to kill civilians isn't as important as whether something will kill civilians. If we dropped a nuke on Baghdad and said "well we weren't targeting the civilians, we were only targeting Saddam Hussein and the civilians happened to be in the way" then that wouldn't have passed muster. The actual invasion of Iraq wasn't that flagrant, but we were still essentially saying "we're going to invade Iraq, this is almost certainly going to directly cause the deaths of [X] civilians, and that's okay by us." Fortunately international law was on our side thanks in no small part to our having veto powers in the only internationally recognized political body that could have censured us.
      yes, exactly. you put it very well.

      this kind of argument often comes up in these sorts of debates and others, like israel/palestine, where there is a massive disparity between the numbers killed and one side resorts to saying basically 'but if they had the chance they'd kill many more than our side actually do kill'. from any moral perspective worth having, actually killing people is much worse than merely wanting to kill people. that's why although neo-nazis are scum for wanting to kill jews, etc., the actual nazis were much, much worse because they actually killed millions of people.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • You're only trying to justify suicide bombings because Muslims do it. You certainly wouldn't try to justify any type of killing of Muslim civilians. Anyone who doesn't say your argument is wrong and horribly evil on it's face is giving you undue credibility.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • your reading comprehension both sucks and blows.
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
            your reading comprehension both sucks and blows.
            You know that game only works here, right? You're preaching to the chior here. You must know that only about 5 percent of Americans would even listen to your trash.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
              and don't worry, you couldn't be any dumber than i think you are.
              hey m8

              you're the one who just equated every justification for war ever into "reasons"
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                Sava: Please make this your new avatar.
                The Wizard of AAHZ

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                • Sava: please don't.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • I thought about it but I can't stand to look at that

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                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Sava: please resurrect your old avatar.

                      You know which one.

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                      • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                        hey m8

                        you're the one who just equated every justification for war ever into "reasons"
                        as you couldn't be any dumber than i think you are, it doesn't surprise that you didn't understand what i wrote.
                        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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