To what extent do you choose your (religious) beliefs?

[loinburger]

I think it's bad to create a universe in which you damn peoples' souls for eternity for anything short of absolute perfection, and to then expect people to be grateful that you've magnanimously decided not to damn peoples' souls for eternity so long as they kowtow to you.

[Kidlicious]

I think it's bad to create a universe in which you damn peoples' souls for eternity for anything short of absolute perfection, and to then expect people to be grateful that you've magnanimously decided not to damn peoples' souls for eternity so long as they kowtow to you.

How can you say that you believe in 'good' then? How can anyone be 'good' without God?

[loinburger]

How can you say that you believe in 'good' then? How can anyone be 'good' without God?

That's a very perverse and demented question

[loinburger]

Didn't you used to be an atheist? Did you spend all of your time as an atheist cackling and kicking puppies, safe in the knowledge that it was impossible for you to be good without god and so you might as well be an utter ****? Or did you have some conception of good and evil as an atheist, and yet for some reason you now find yourself completely incapable of empathizing with atheists?

[Kidlicious]

That's a very perverse and demented question

???? If you're good, then how did you get that way? Can good be created by evil?

[kentonio]

How can you say that you believe in 'good' then? How can anyone be 'good' without God?

"Ok so I machine gunned a school full of children, but I feel really sorry and totally believe in you god."
"Ok your sins are forgiven."

"Hey I just saved a school full of children from being machine gunned, but I'm also an atheist."
"**** you evil scum, you will burn in hell."

[loinburger]

???? If you're good, then how did you get that way? Can good be created by evil?

If I'm evil, then how did I get that way? Can evil be created by good? **** off.

[Kidlicious]

"Ok so I machine gunned a school full of children, but I feel really sorry and totally believe in you god."
"Ok your sins are forgiven."

"Hey I just saved a school full of children from being machine gunned, but I'm also an atheist."
"**** you evil scum, you will burn in hell."

I would quote scripture instead.... "He that is forgiven most, loves the most."

[loinburger]

I would quote scripture instead.... "He that is forgiven most, loves the most."

So does your hatred of Muslims indicate that you're damned?

[Kidlicious]

If I'm evil, then how did I get that way? Can evil be created by good? **** off.

God created us good, but with free will. We choose to be evil, or bad, or whatever. We're good, so long are we know why we are good.

[Kidlicious]

So does your hatred of Muslims indicate that you're damned?

Are you going to be serious?

[loinburger]

Are you going to be serious?

I was being serious - I find it somewhat inconsistent that you preach more love and spout more hate than almost anybody else on this forum.

[Kidlicious]

I was being serious - I find it somewhat inconsistent that you preach more love and spout more hate than almost anybody else on this forum.

When did I ever say anything hateful?

[loinburger]

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