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    it's true. but some of us may well die of previously treatable infections.

    Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic era'

    The world is on the cusp of a "post-antibiotic era", scientists have warned after finding bacteria resistant to drugs used when all other treatments have failed.

    They identified bacteria able to shrug off the drug of last resort - colistin - in patients and livestock in China.
    They said that resistance would spread around the world and raised the spectre of untreatable infections.
    It is likely resistance emerged after colistin was overused in farm animals.

    Bacteria becoming completely resistant to treatment - also known as the antibiotic apocalypse - could plunge medicine back into the dark ages.

    Common infections would kill once again, while surgery and cancer therapies, which are reliant on antibiotics, would be under threat.

    Key players

    Chinese scientists identified a new mutation, dubbed the MCR-1 gene, that prevented colistin from killing bacteria.
    The report in the Lancet Infectious Diseases showed resistance in a fifth of animals tested, 15% of raw meat samples and in 16 patients.

    And the resistance had spread between a range of bacterial strains and species, including E. coli, Klebsiella pneumoniae and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

    There is also evidence that it has spread to Laos and Malaysia.

    Prof Timothy Walsh, who collaborated on the study, from the University of Cardiff, told the BBC News website: "All the key players are now in place to make the post-antibiotic world a reality.

    "If MCR-1 becomes global, which is a case of when not if, and the gene aligns itself with other antibiotic resistance genes, which is inevitable, then we will have very likely reached the start of the post-antibiotic era.

    "At that point if a patient is seriously ill, say with E. coli, then there is virtually nothing you can do."

    Resistance to colistin has emerged before.

    However, the crucial difference this time is the mutation has arisen in a way that is very easily shared between bacteria.
    "The transfer rate of this resistance gene is ridiculously high, that doesn't look good," said Prof Mark Wilcox, from Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust.

    His hospital is now dealing with multiple cases "where we're struggling to find an antibiotic" every month - an event he describes as being as "rare as hens' teeth" five years ago.

    He said there was no single event that would mark the start of the antibiotic apocalypse, but it was clear "we're losing the battle".

    The concern is that the new resistance gene will hook up with others plaguing hospitals, leading to bacteria resistant to all treatment - what is known as pan-resistance.

    Prof Wilcox told the BBC News website: "Do I fear we'll get to an untreatable organism situation? Ultimately yes.
    "Whether that happens this year, or next year, or the year after, it's very hard to say."

    Early indications suggest the Chinese government is moving swiftly to address the problem.

    Prof Walsh is meeting both the agricultural and health ministries this weekend to discuss whether colistin should be banned for agricultural use.

    Prof Laura Piddock, from the campaign group Antibiotic Action, said the same antibiotics "should not be used in veterinary and human medicine".

    She told the BBC News website: "Hopefully the post-antibiotic era is not upon us yet. However, this is a wake-up call to the world."

    She argued the dawning of the post-antibiotic era "really depends on the infection, the patient and whether there are alternative treatment options available" as combinations of antibiotics may still be effective.

    New drugs are in development, such as teixobactin, which might delay the apocalypse, but are not yet ready for medical use.

    A commentary in the Lancet concluded the "implications [of this study] are enormous" and unless something significant changes, doctors would "face increasing numbers of patients for whom we will need to say, 'Sorry, there is nothing I can do to cure your infection.'"
    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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    I read this also today. It makes IS look like an anoyance instead of a problem in comparison.

    I did see something not to l ok ng ago though that there was some serious work going on to find different mediums from which to create antibiotics.

    Hopefully they will not be stupid enough to give those to livestock and will have more strict human controls...assuming they pan out.

    If not, then we may be looking at tens of millions dying needlessly.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • #3
      The title of this thread brought me to an existential crisis. Why is there a Y'all (or Ya'll) and not a W'all (or Wa'll)? Are southerners just anti-social?

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      • #4
        We = I'all

        y'all:all y'all::we:w'all

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        • #5
          The perfect game for the post antibiotic era:
          Plague Inc. Evolved

          And yes, I remember one patient dying in a japanese hospital more than a decade ago, from a pneumonia that was resistant against all antibiotics they tried ... that was already a bad sign with regards to the race between antibiotic designers and multiple antibiotic resistance in bacteriae
          Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
          Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aeson View Post
            The title of this thread brought me to an existential crisis. Why is there a Y'all (or Ya'll) and not a W'all (or Wa'll)? Are southerners just anti-social?
            Yahweh is going to die?
            There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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            • #7
              According to Nietzsche it already happened

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              • #8
                Don't worry. Nanotechnology will save us. There are some very promising technologies that have been demonstrated already that you guys are just unaware of.
                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                • #9
                  Do you have to be really short to take advantage of them?

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                  • #10
                    oh yeah

                    nano=dwarf

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                      I read this also today. It makes IS look like an anoyance instead of a problem in comparison.

                      I did see something not to l ok ng ago though that there was some serious work going on to find different mediums from which to create antibiotics.

                      Hopefully they will not be stupid enough to give those to livestock and will have more strict human controls...assuming they pan out.

                      If not, then we may be looking at tens of millions dying needlessly.
                      ISIS to the West is as irrelevant as a non-itchy gnat bite, in comparison to gun crime in the US...

                      Just sayin'

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                        According to Nietzsche it already happened
                        According to God it already happened to Nietzsche.
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • #13
                          He told you ?
                          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                          • #14
                            Yes.

                            Originally posted by GOD.
                            ...it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • #15
                              Not only does God speak English, he posts on apolyton !!!
                              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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