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Watching the fleet sail by. The US set to say f* you to China and sail within the 12 mile limit of these new islands

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  • #61
    Doesn't matter. It was in port and unprepared to defend itself in any capacity. It's like if we argued over whether a guy could defend himself against zombies with his sweet combat shotgun, and then the zombies broke down the door and ate him while he was on the toilet.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Elok View Post
      Doesn't matter. It was in port and unprepared to defend itself in any capacity. It's like if we argued over whether a guy could defend himself against zombies with his sweet combat shotgun, and then the zombies broke down the door and ate him while he was on the toilet.
      Obviously. The point was that this idea that AEGIS ships are untouchable is just wrong and dumb. China is extremely close to becoming a superpower and the idea that one AEGIS ship alone off their coast wouldnt be doomed in a war situation is just ridiculous.

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      • #63
        Well, given what China has in the area (which isn't anywhere near their coast or any significant military presence), MWHC probably isn't far off on the hypothetical attack. Of course China isn't going to attack a US AEGIS Cruiser with a fleet of coast guard cutters, dredges, and fishing boats so it's still a silly hypothetical. China wouldn't attack the US even if they could sink the ship, because that would be horribly stupid. (And if they could sink the ship the US wouldn't have sailed it there alone either.)

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ricketyclik View Post
          That's not true. The US blockaded Japanese oil supplies provoking Pearl Harbour.
          No. The US embargoed oil, we did not blockade. A blockade is an act of war, while an embargo is a diplomatic tool. If we blockaded Japanese oil supplies then that would mean our navy was preventing the delivery of oil from third parties.
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
            Obviously. The point was that this idea that AEGIS ships are untouchable is just wrong and dumb. China is extremely close to becoming a superpower and the idea that one AEGIS ship alone off their coast wouldnt be doomed in a war situation is just ridiculous.
            And you say this because a US destroyer was hit while in port, but wasn't sunk? Keep telling them stories liberal.
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            • #66
              something has to give. and it will...

              No, US Navy will not put one ship in there by itself. My goodness the US Navy will be everywhere. And, everything without a US flag attached to it will already be targeted (fishing boats too if they take one wrong turn). It will be over very soon after it starts. like an earthquake this will rock things back to a more normal state - and the tension will slowly build up again over decades.

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              • #67
                I'm having this dispute with my neighbor. He's planted a tree right over on my side of the property line, and he's trying to say it's his. The county records show it's mine, so I figure I'll just uproot the tree and punch him in the face. Then he'll accept that he can't win and leave me alone. Makes sense, right?
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                • #68
                  if you had a lawyer base the equivalent of the US Navy.... Yes, I think you would be correct.

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                  • #69
                    You think that because your giant American boner got so big it swung up and smacked the brains right out of your skull.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Elok View Post
                      You think that because your giant American boner got so big it swung up and smacked the brains right out of your skull.
                      i'll take that as you agree with me too. maybe not appreciatively agree - but you know that's the way it is.

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                      • #71
                        No, I'm saying you show overwhelming ignorance of how human beings in conflict actually behave.
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                        • #72
                          yeah ok... maybe the US and China will just work everything out over a nice dinner. I guess it's possible.

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                          • #73
                            not al marriages end in divorce. or murder.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Elok View Post
                              I'm having this dispute with my neighbor. He's planted a tree right over on my side of the property line, and he's trying to say it's his. The county records show it's mine, so I figure I'll just uproot the tree and punch him in the face. Then he'll accept that he can't win and leave me alone. Makes sense, right?
                              He can call the police who will bring whatever force necessary to bring you to justice. That's why the police wear black and carry guns. They even show how strong they are in numbers when the situation calls for it.
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                              • #75
                                There were steps taken to make USA great. We need a new leader with a pair.

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