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Originally posted by grumbler
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Arrest is indeed a legal term that means taken into custody and loss of liberty. He was already in the custody of the school who called the police and allowed them to fingerprint him. You're the one telling stories.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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It's so annoying when people simply don't believe that you're a nice poster, isn't it?Originally posted by Elok View Post
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It's more annoying when you are.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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He was not arrested by the school. Take a look again at any legal dictionary, and you will see that schools do not arrest their students, but these police did arrest this student. Your narrative on this is contrary to facts.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostThe dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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It is interesting how you have snuck in this claim that I said you were dishonest, when a cursory look at the paragraph in question shows that i never said anything of the sort. But, of course, you have reveal yourself to be dishonest by making false claims about my own words. Irony isn't just the opposite of wrinkly.Originally posted by Elok View Post
And if the "rudeness" was so vague and ... useless" why do you care so very much? Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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Of course schools can't arrest students. They can send them to get fingerprintsOriginally posted by grumbler View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Your bogus narrative is slipping again. In what way can schools "send them to get fingerprints?" Everyone at the school already has fingerprints. People are born with fingerprints. There isn't some fingerprint fairy that schools have to send students to in order for them to get fingerprints.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostThe dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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There's a rumor going around that his clock counts backwards and that a teacher warned him to put it away and he didn't. He showed it off like show n' tell.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Maybe I'm just looking at some old stuff, but it seems that the police only have the right to take fingerprints if you are charged for someting. They ca't just haul people to the nearest police station and collect DNA, fingerprints etc.
So, since the boy wasn't charged for anything, just arrested, the police wasn't allowed to take prints.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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They actually can keep you in a cell for so many days (usually 2 I think), fingerprint you, and release you without charging you if they think they may charge you later. If they decide to charge you later they will pick you up again.Originally posted by BlackCat View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I think that you watch way too many TV crime series :Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Will I be fingerprinted and photographed?
Police have a right to fingerprint and photograph you if they charge you with an offence that can be an indictable offence. If the police charge you with a summary offence, they have no right to take your fingerprints and photograph.
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f the police arrest and charge you with a criminal offence and hold you in jail, you must be brought before a judge within 24 hours of the time of arrest or as soon as possible. If it is on a weekend, you may have a hearing with a judge by conference call.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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IMO.
The school slightly overreacted. Not a surprise considering circumstances. I've seen worse reactions for less.
THE POLICE really overreacted. Was it due to incompetence or bigotry is yet to be determined. (probably a bit of both)
BUT, I think getting a big pay day on a lawsuit is going to be difficult.
I think it will be hard to prove substantial damages. So the kid was cuffed and printed and held for a few hours. The kid has become a national celebrity, with many offers.
An official apology from the department and the cops involved should be accepted as the kid and his parents laugh all the way to the bank.
A long trial would damage the kids image and make his parents look like greedy profiteers. (or using it to push a political point) Neither of which would be good for the kid in the long term.
The kid is going to get a good payoff without having to drag it to court and looking greedy.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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That is correct. The police can only take a person into custody (and thus cuff, fingerprint, etc) if they haveOriginally posted by BlackCat View Post
(1) probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed, and
(2) probable cause to believe that a given person is the perpetrator of that crime.
Probable cause is defined as positive evidence that would convince a reasonable person that the suspicion was warranted. The cops had no reasonable suspicion in either count in this case.
The suspect does not have to be charged, so long as the probable cause standard is met; police can't charge anyone as it is the DA who charges people with crimes.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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Yeah, Kid was wrong yet again. I wonder what it will take for him to abandon his clearly doomed false narrative.Originally posted by BlackCat View PostI think that you watch way too many TV crime series :
Forgot :The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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The definition of probably cause has been stretched for decades.
Without a specific declaration from a bomb squad or other expert, we're in gray territory. Common sense excluded
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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