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I think a lot of the stuff about whether women are as interested in sex as men comes from the social construct of men are supposed to ask women out. So men may feel that they are more interested in sex because they are the ones who are supposed to be the "pursuer". And the added construct of "if you sleep with him on your first date, he'll lose all respect for you", which is lessening in both the minds of men and women. Add into it "The Rules", which are based on those constructs and it seems that those sort of things may be so, but its just layers we've placed on top of our social relations which doesn't necessarily indicate desires (I'm plenty sure that in the past that women wanted to go home with the guy, but wondered if that would make her seem 'lesser' in his eyes or something).“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Basic nature may be overcome by cultural norms, but there is still the universal impact of the fundamental asymmetry in the consequences of sex, promiscuity and other issues such as verification of parentage of an offspring. That is, women may have the same desire and propensity, but they have more to gain by being discreet - even if "flaunting it" for want of a better phrase is culturally acceptable or promoted.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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There does exist birth control pills these days.
Though STDs are, of course, still a worry, but that applies to both.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostThere does exist birth control pills these days.
Though STDs are, of course, still a worry, but that applies to both.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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I find most women on the pill tend to indeed use them properly... the ones that are so religious that they won't go on the pill (because sex is for marriage or whatnot) are likely going to be ones who try to deny their sexual desire as temptation (the males in similar denominations will do the same).“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostI find most women on the pill tend to indeed use them properly... the ones that are so religious that they won't go on the pill (because sex is for marriage or whatnot) are likely going to be ones who try to deny their sexual desire as temptation (the males in similar denominations will do the same).One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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One survey, recently reported by the federal government, concluded that men had a median of seven female sex partners. Women had a median of four male sex partners. Another study, by British researchers, stated that men had 12.7 heterosexual partners in their lifetimes and women had 6.5.
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Speaking of the Pill, I'm given to understand that it does lower sex drive--women are most easily aroused when fertile, and the Pill basically tricks the body into thinking it's pregnant. I have no direct experience with the things, but that's what I hear and it makes sense.
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Originally posted by Dauphin View PostOh please! Your personal anecdotal experience and knowledge of women's birth control routine is the basis of an argument against the notion that consequences of sex are asymmetric. I should just call you Ben..
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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What do you mean by "savaged"? I had two trolls tut-tut at me, and got into an argument w/BC which I conceded due to lack of experience with the subject (and interest). It's entirely possible Dauphin has the means to back that up, for all I know.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostI should call you Elok, because you are basically making the same argument that he did (that got him savaged).
When a couple have a child, a woman is never going to doubt she's the mother of 'their' child, but there can be doubt over the father. Advertising promiscuous behaviour is bad for both sexes, but more so for a woman as it raises doubts over parentage in the father.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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I am always surprised that the men who take the title feminist and use it to push a point of view, push the view that women should express their sexuality in way that would benefit them under the guise of women having control of their sexuality... because obviously the way that women who control their sexuality should behave is the way that would please them.
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