[civil] "Greece moves closer to eurozone exit after delaying €300m repayment to IMF "

[Bereta_Eder]

You need to get over your entitlement mentality. The world does not owe you a living nor are you entitled to money for nothing. The sooner Greeks figure that out the better off they will be.

Even after having lost 30% of its GDP in 5 years Greece is still the 23th wealthiest country in the world.
Do you think that came about because "we" feel entitled?

A relative of mine was collecting plants on a hill hiding from gestapo in order to survive.
The country was utterly destroyed in ww2 and the civil war that you ****s promoted.

I realize that you're murderous clueless bojos but there's just one thing that if I can be so bold I might propose:

progress does not come about a rational paved organized way. It comes through a balance of conflicting interests and deeply knowing what needs to be done. The line is not straight and it never had been.

Greece is caught in a cluster**** and is only partially responsible.

That part of empathy is why societies can turn to paradise even with less or to jungles with more.

Time will tell.

[Dinner]

Let me know when you guys can figure out how to pay your bills on time. If you folks would just make the reforms (something you have only just begun to do) and sell of assets to pay down debt you would actually be in decent shape. Hell, if you folks had been smart enough to do this five years ago when you said you would then your debt would be half what it is now. As it stands it appears the Greeks are continuing their policy of doing absolutely nothing until a crisis forces them then making promises but immediately breaking all of those promises as soon as they get the money. Is it any wonder you people find yourselves in a hole of your own making?

[Dinner]

let me make this clear again.

Greece will exit the euro in 3 months time UNLESS there is a radical re-adjestment of the "bailout".
And (MAYBE) there will be...

Reforms (code word for wealth accumulation in large part, few are the real ones) don't play any part.


Is this me who says this?

It's spiegel the largest german magazine and generally regarded as a vehicle of expression of the german gov (in the way that it has links to gov officials and can know their position)


Get over yourself

It is called liberalizing the economy and giving people a reason to invest in Greece. If you want more jobs then you need to give investors a reason to do so and it has to be a better incentive than the competitors in your region are offering. Other wise the investments will go else where. As for just "wealth accumulation", duh, that is the name of the game and if you actually provide jobs then regular Greeks could start working in them and accumulating some new wealth for themselves.

[Bereta_Eder]

It is called liberalize Nguyen the economy and giving people a reason to invest in Greece. If you want more jobs then you need to give investors a reason to do so and it has to be a better incentive than the competitors in your region are offering. Other wise the investments will go else where. As for just "wealth accumulation", duh, that is the name of the game and if you actually provide jobs then regular Greeks could start working in them and accumulating some new wealth for themselves.

Let me know when you've learned how to build a humane society and not the cluster**** you're in now then you'll be worth listening to.


And again. Jobs were and are lost due to insane taxation. A precondition of the bailout. Businesses close none invests.

Writing from mobile so I stop before I also start proposing liberalising Vietnam else families

[My Wife Hates CIV]

"Let me know when you've learned how to build a humane society and not the cluster**** you're in now then you'll be worth listening to. "

this kinda post tells me you don't get it.

[Bereta_Eder]

"Let me know when you've learned how to build a humane society and not the cluster**** you're in now then you'll be worth listening to. "

this kinda post tells me you don't get it.

I don't want to get it. No one does

[notyoueither]

If my garden was as big as Europe ... I wouldn't mind the extra workers.

Most of Europe is unaffected, the refugees aren't rushing Hadrian's Wall.

[dannubis]

Most of Europe is unaffected, the refugees aren't rushing Hadrian's Wall.

This is what people like paiktis don't understand.

All these refugees will end up in relatively few big cities where they will have a huge impact on the social fabric of the community.
Proposed solution ? Nothing...

[Bereta_Eder]

don't care

[Bereta_Eder]

if germany is closing down job centers because they are useless (as does austria) if it is about to break the 6% ceiling on surpluses while the countries in the periphery are bleeding out, then of course the refugees would want to go there.

now if someone stops destabilizing their countries maybe they won't be leaving.

as long as this doesn't happen the "solution" would be to sink their boats and shoot them at the border.


good luck with that

[Bereta_Eder]

[Bereta_Eder]

He was a Kurdi from Turkey, genius. He did not leave Turkey due to any U.S. policy. Try again.

The kurdish villages the greek yogurt guy was talking about were leveled with american weapons

[Bereta_Eder]

Hell, all of the reforms have been stalled ever since the dead beats in Syriza got some more money out of the EU. Where are the promised privitizations?

There were no reforms perfomed under the previous extreme right wing gov.
Just a horizontal stealing of society and a desperate attempt to protect "their own kids".

They are the responsibles for the greek part of the FUBAR and got rightly plummeted by the people

[dannubis]

don't care

we know. that's why your voice is irrelevant.

[Bereta_Eder]