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  • #91


    Americans are worth more than Europeans it seems.

    Insurers for Lufthansa have reportedly set aside $300 million (£200 million) to cover costs associated with last week’s Germanwings crash, the lion’s share of which is for compensation claims by the victims’ families.

    However that sum is unlikely to be divided evenly among the families of the 150 people who died in the crash.

    By some estimates, the three American victims could receive compensation payments up to 30 times greater than those paid to the families of the German schoolchildren who died in the crash.
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    According to James Healy-Pratt, head of aviation at Stewarts Law, the families of the German victims of last week’s crash are likely to receive the least in compensation, perhaps as low as $100,000 per victim.

    Mr Healy-Pratt told CNN that the families of the three British victims will likely receive upwards of $1 million, while the families of the three American victims could receive substantially more still.


    RE the liability cap, I think it is still up in the air. (#Too soon?)

    The biggest variable in the Germanwings crash may well be the cause of the disaster.

    In the case of an unforeseeable air disaster, airlines are liable for payments of up to roughly $160,000 per victim under the 1999 Montreal Convention.

    If the airline is judged to be responsible for the deaths of its passengers, however, there is no limit to the carrier’s responsibility. Authorities have concluded that co-pilot Andreas Lubitz crashed the plane intentionally, but the question of what Lufthansa knew, or should have known about his mental health is less certain.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ife-worth.html

      Americans are worth more than Europeans it seems.
      Was there any doubt?
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      • #93
        What really stinks about this whole mess is that the compensation, regardless of size, will never fill the hole of those lives lost.

        What is odd to me is that we haven't seen an economist come in and claim each person lost was worth X due to their family backgrounds, likely career paths, etc. Or maybe that's why they've set aside extra funds for the Americans? I know nothing of the families involved but if they were well-to-do that could explain it.
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        • #94
          Originally posted by FlameFlash View Post
          What really stinks about this whole mess is that the compensation, regardless of size, will never fill the hole of those lives lost.

          What is odd to me is that we haven't seen an economist come in and claim each person lost was worth X due to their family backgrounds, likely career paths, etc. Or maybe that's why they've set aside extra funds for the Americans? I know nothing of the families involved but if they were well-to-do that could explain it.
          The inequal compensation depending on country of origin (if true) definiely stinks (and I hope that the families of the german victims sue against such a thing).

          Perhaps a reason for this is, that it is more easy for americans to sue large corporations without too many costs involved, by just promising the lawyer a percentage of the compensation that the victims gain via the lawyer.

          In germany it isn´t this easy because there are clear defined rules to what the lawyer can get and the lawyers customers will have to pay him, even if the chances to win (and the amount of possible compansation) still are unclear (which also means that the victims, if they sue against Lufthansa, might have to bring a certain financial cushion if they want to fight a judical battle through multiple instances).

          This makes the risk for Lufthansa in judical battles against relatives of american victims perhaps much higher than it is with regards to relatives of german victims.


          However, still the relatives of the victims (even of the german ones) of the germanwings crash are better off than, for example, the relatives of the iraqi victims of ISIS. Noone will pay the victims of the ISIS terror a cent, for the people they lost and the torture they endured at the hand of ISIS.
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          • #95
            Was there any doubt?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
              This makes the risk for Lufthansa in judical battles against relatives of american victims perhaps much higher than it is with regards to relatives of german victims.
              A very interesting comparison between the legal systems. Thank you.
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              • #97
                America definitely needs tort reform, I agree.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  America definitely needs tort reform, I agree.


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                  • #99
                    Am I hearing correctly knew he was seriously depressed yet let him keep flying? If that's true they deserve the lawsuit.
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                    • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                      Am I hearing correctly knew he was seriously depressed yet let him keep flying? If that's true they deserve the lawsuit.
                      According to what I know he had told them that he had experienced a depressive phase in the past ...
                      but he also told them that it was over and wasn´t depressive anymore.
                      Dunno if he backed this up with a psychological examination and/or was required to undergo regular psychological examinations afterwards however
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                      • yes. one would hope that airline procedures would be a bit more vigorous than just taking someone's word for it.
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                        • I'm under the impression that he saw a doctor recently and had been told by that doctor that he shouldn't be on active flight duty. Here in the US that doctor would be required by law to report his recommendations to the airline.
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                          • It was reported that he had managed to withold info from his therapist that he was flying planes. Of course this is hearsay from the media who are having a christmas day with the story, particulalry the scummy tabloid ones (bild)

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