what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Sava]

No, it's a bit different.

There is a Wonderland between roughly European Union and China, where, despite 110 persons owning 1/3 of all assets (China, which is also very unequal has 1% of pop or 1 million owning the same proportion), all is good.

And there is a ring of enemies around Wonderland, who are all nazis, fascists, radicals, blood-suckers and what not.

They enslave people and don't let them return to Wonderland, so instead, Wonderland intends to come to them.

I thought Russians didn't like marijuana

[binTravkin]

They have vodka.

[Saras]

Everyone who lived on a territory of Russia during a collapse of USSR become a Russian citizen. Only Baltic states decided to divide people living in their country into two categories, commemorated Nazis etc.

Not true. Lithuania, half the population of "the Baltic states", let everyone become a citizen automatically.

[Saras]

And there is a ring of enemies around Wonderland, who are all nazis, fascists, radicals, blood-suckers and what not.

You forgot TEH J00S.

[binTravkin]

Lithuania had only like 7% Russian immigrants, so doing that didn't amount to national suicide.

IIRC, Lithuanians had had the foresight to be significantly more hostile to Russian immigrants than more peaceful Latvians and Estonians, and they had a hard time living there.

[Saras]

Lithuania had only like 7% Russian immigrants, so doing that didn't amount to national suicide.

There's that, and also we're always right beside our Estonian and Latvian buddies when "TEH BALTICSES" are accused of apartheid and nazism, to NITPICK TO DEATH

[Bereta_Eder]

First, you should stop posting pictures of nazi russians, it's very probably Oerdin will start supporting Russia now

I would like to point out, besides the obvious problematic integration situation amptly presented here, (integrating all russians in latvia would result in national suicide - I do see your point too)

that we are talking with two baltic guys

one of which apparently got so scared of russia he left riga to go hide in the countryside. doesn't sound very balanced no offence

and the other guy, our beloved saras who in this site posted pics of him shooting pictures of putin (way before ukraine hit the fan).


Just saying

[Saras]

First, you should stop posting pictures of nazi russians, it's very probably Oerdin will start supporting Russia now

I would like to point out, besides the obvious problematic integration situation amptly presented here, (integrating all russians in latvia would result in national suicide - I do see your point too)

that we are talking with two baltic guys

one of which apparently got so scared of russia he left riga to go hide in the countryside. doesn't sound very balanced no offence

and the other guy, our beloved saras who in this site posted pics of him shooting pictures of putin (way before ukraine hit the fan).


Just saying

Wait until you see me in Riflemens Union uniform on basic training (yea, at a sweet age of 38).

[binTravkin]

one of which apparently got so scared of russia he left riga to go hide in the countryside. doesn't sound very balanced no offence

So basically if some ukrainian patriot lived in Mariupol (which is rumored to be next target of Russia in Ukraine), went to country and afterwards Russia would seize Mariupol, you would say his fears were justified.
But I'm not very balanced?

I did go to country because I realised that the direct threat is probably not real until some other conditions are met.

Of the possible scenarios within which that threat would materialize, there are very few which would allow me to escape whether I live in Riga or here.

If talking seriously about "balance", you can't really understand the issues if you never had business with Russia. And if you have, your view will most likely will be very similar to us, "Baltic guys".

Here's a book from US investor, one time Kremlin advisor, who got his lawyer killed and was expelled from Russia.
He explains the workings of regime and business culture in Russia, in vivid detail:

http://books.simonandschuster.com/Red-Notice/Bill-Browder/9781476755717

This is the guy responsible for the US Magnitsky Act.

Bill Browder’s journey started on the South Side of Chicago and moved through Stanford Business School to the dog-eat-dog world of hedge fund investing in the 1990s. It continued in Moscow, where Browder made his fortune heading the largest investment fund in Russia after the Soviet Union’s collapse. But when he exposed the corrupt oligarchs who were robbing the companies in which he was investing, Vladimir Putin turned on him and, in 2005, had him expelled from Russia.

In 2007, a group of law enforcement officers raided Browder’s offices in Moscow and stole $230 million of taxes that his fund’s companies had paid to the Russian government. Browder’s attorney Sergei Magnitsky investigated the incident and uncovered a sprawling criminal enterprise. A month after Sergei testified against the officials involved, he was arrested and thrown into pre-trial detention, where he was tortured for a year. On November 16, 2009, he was led to an isolation chamber, handcuffed to a bedrail, and beaten to death by eight guards in full riot gear.

Browder glimpsed the heart of darkness, and it transformed his life: he embarked on an unrelenting quest for justice in Sergei’s name, exposing the towering cover-up that leads right up to Putin. A financial caper, a crime thriller, and a political crusade, Red Notice is the story of one man taking on overpowering odds to change the world.

And here's a book about Russia, by a Russian.

Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible by Peter Pomerantsev

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/04/nothing-is-true-and-everything-is-permitted-peter-pomerantsev-review-russia-oil-boom

http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-True-Everything-Possible-Adventures/dp/0571308015/ref=pd_sim_b_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1EC3VS30ZNFFRB5FQ1PS

http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Is-True-Everything-Possible/dp/1610394550

In the new Russia, even dictatorship is a reality show.

Professional killers with the souls of artists, would-be theater directors turned Kremlin puppet-masters, suicidal supermodels, Hell’s Angels who hallucinate themselves as holy warriors, and oligarch revolutionaries: welcome to the glittering, surreal heart of twenty-first-century Russia. It is a world erupting with new money and new power, changing so fast it breaks all sense of reality, home to a form of dictatorship—far subtler than twentieth-century strains—that is rapidly rising to challenge the West.

[Saras]

Lithuania had only like 7% Russian immigrants, so doing that didn't amount to national suicide.

What is amazing is that even Soviet Army officers stationed in Lithuania had that option, and some chose to stay.

[Dinner]

Bloomberg has a good piece about how eastern Ukraine is switching over to roubles because so many Russian soldiers get paid in roubles and they are the only people with money to spend these days especially since the Ukrainian government has stopped making pension payments to rebel controlled areas. Russia is also paying the salaries of all rebel government officials in roubles now as well.

[binTravkin]

Is anyone apart Russians still doubting it's the actual Russian army doing the fighing?

E.g. they are rehearsing for parade today.
Guess what kind of emblem is on military vehicles?
Russian army NEW military emblem, adopted in use last year.

[regexcellent]

No, nobody doubts what's going on. And that logo is balls ugly.

[Dinner]

A few days ago Elle star was still lying and pretending it was just volunteers instead of the official Russian army. It is amazing how someone could be so stupid as to believe that nonsense.

[Ellestar]

Is anyone apart Russians still doubting it's the actual Russian army doing the fighing?

E.g. they are rehearsing for parade today.
Guess what kind of emblem is on military vehicles?
Russian army NEW military emblem, adopted in use last year.

So? Emblems are obviously different, different shape, different coloration. Nowadays with a modern computerized equipment you can make a fan-made emblem in 5 minutes basically for free.

Does this photo mean that Azov Nazi are an official NATO division? I mean, look, they're making a photo with a NATO and Nazi flags.

http://novorossia.today/natsistskie-karateli-iz-azova-podnyali-nad-shirokino-flag-ssha/