Republicans have a hard on for torture

[loinburger]

Again, the part of the article that I quoted, twice, states that the author is not accusing the torturers of being sadists. You have got to be one of the dumbest people on the face of the earth.

[Kidlicious]

You've avoided this question in the past because you're ridiculously dishonest, but let's try this again. The CIA is trying to prevent Another 9/11, and to do this they want to engage in the following activities. Which if any do you consider to be immoral ("children" refers to children who are under 18 years of age)

1. Depriving suspected terrorists of sleep
2. Physically maiming suspected terrorists
3. Killing suspected terrorists via firing squad
4. Killing suspected terrorists via a torturous method (e.g. burnt alive)
5. A female interrogator fellating a male suspected terrorist
6. A male interrogator fellating a male suspected terrorist
7. A male interrogator receiving anal sex from a male suspected terrorist
8. Depriving suspected terrorists' children of sleep
9. Physically maiming suspected terrorists' children
10. Killing suspected terrorists' children via firing squad
11. Killing suspected terrorists' children via a torturous method (e.g. burnt alive)

I didn't avoid answering your question. You are a troll, and as such are lucky to ever receive a reply.

[Lorizael]

loinburger, have you considered adopting for Kidicious the same policy you apply to BK?

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/188143-Pro-Life-Activist-Gunned-Down-in-Michigan?p=5676218&viewfull=1#post5676218

[Kidlicious]

Again, the part of the article that I quoted, twice, states that the author is not accusing the torturers of being sadists. You have got to be one of the dumbest people on the face of the earth.

So they aren't sadists. Very good.

[Kidlicious]

That's very reasonable of the writer to write an article about how Republicans aren't sadists, and that makes perfect sense.

[loinburger]

loinburger, have you considered adopting for Kidicious the same policy you apply to BK?

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/1...=1#post5676218

I'm pretty sure that BK is trolling to some degree. I used to think the same of Kidicious, but now I just think he's dumb as a rock.

[loinburger]

I didn't avoid answering your question. You are a troll, and as such are lucky to ever receive a reply.

So you'd be fine with a CIA officer taking it up the ass from a suspected terrorist if that would get the terrorist to divulge information that would Prevent Another 9/11? I mean, you of all people certainly wouldn't want to second-guess the CIA...

[Kidlicious]

And that's not trolling

[loinburger]

You're not honest enough to address the serious questions, so I might as well press home on the less serious ones

Unless you're finally ready to answer the question: is it morally acceptable for the CIA to torture and/or kill the children of suspected terrorists? Despotic regimes have often used pressure / reprisals against family members to punish (what they perceived as) terrorist activity, so if we're already using other parts of their playbook... For example, following Reinhard Heydrich's assassination the Nazis imprisoned and killed thousands in reprisal.

[Kidlicious]

K. The CIA didn't do that.

Anyway, this has not been posted

http://www.examiner.com/article/pelosi-congress-approved-of-enhanced-interrogation-cia-documents-show

Democrats knew all about this. Pelosi and others put their fingers in their ears. Now they say they knew nothing. Liars!

It wasn't politically correct then. Why is it now?

[loinburger]

K. The CIA didn't do that.

Would it be wrong if they had? Would you be willing to Let Another 9/11 Happen just so some terrorist's kid wasn't tortured? In other words, you're fine with torturing suspected terrorists if that's what the CIA wants to do (who are we to second guess the CIA, who has never been wrong, ever). Does this mean you're giving the CIA carte blanche to do whatever it deems expedient, or at some point would what's left of your abysmal moral code intervene?

[loinburger]

Or maybe here's a simpler question for you to understand: rank the following from most evil to least evil

1. Al Qaeda terrorists waterboard an American journalist
2. Al Qaeda terrorists waterboard an American soldier
3. CIA operatives waterboard a suspected terrorist
4. CIA operatives waterboard a suspected terrorist's child
5. Two men have consensual butt sex

[Kidlicious]

Strawman

[loinburger]

Really? Which argument of yours have I extrapolated to absurd proportions? All I've done is ask you some moral hypotheticals, which you with a malformed moral code are unable to answer - so you throw out nonsensical excuses as to why you can't/won't answer them.

When you've got a hyper-authoritarian moral code it's difficult to come up with answers without the authority constantly whispering in your ear. What you need to do is add some auditory hallucinations to your schizophrenia.

[regexcellent]

You've avoided this question in the past because you're ridiculously dishonest, but let's try this again. The CIA is trying to prevent Another 9/11, and to do this they want to engage in the following activities. Which if any do you consider to be immoral ("children" refers to children who are under 18 years of age)

1. Depriving suspected terrorists of sleep
2. Physically maiming suspected terrorists
3. Killing suspected terrorists via firing squad
4. Killing suspected terrorists via a torturous method (e.g. burnt alive)
5. A female interrogator fellating a male suspected terrorist
6. A male interrogator fellating a male suspected terrorist
7. A male interrogator receiving anal sex from a male suspected terrorist
8. Depriving suspected terrorists' children of sleep
9. Physically maiming suspected terrorists' children
10. Killing suspected terrorists' children via firing squad
11. Killing suspected terrorists' children via a torturous method (e.g. burnt alive)

Uh loinburger I am rather certain that CIA interrogators never did the bulk of those things in your list.

e: okay I'm missing context cause I'm not gonna read the thread never mind.