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  • Originally posted by Sava View Post
    YEAH TOTTALLY

    I REGRET NOT ADVOCATING MASS DISCRIMINTION ON MOOSLIMS
    Who is advocating mass discrimination of Muslims? I'm saying that Islam is subject to the same criticism as any other ideology. And you have actively argued against that idea, on the basis that a moral analysis of Islam will just make more crazy people want to kill us. In other words, you oppose free speech because you're worried about insulting people's religious beliefs.

    Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
    This is a pretty weird opinion for a worshiper of a monotheistic deity to have. It suggests you believe morality precedes God rather than proceeds from God. If that's the case, then you don't believe your God is omnipotent. That at least allows you to circumvent theodicy, but it also makes you a heretic.
    It's not weird at all if the monotheistic deity gave us free will.
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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    • Originally posted by molly bloom View Post
      Despite being born to Christians, raised a Roman Catholic, and believing in a supernatural supreme being.
      I'm pretty sure Stalin was in a seminary at one point. That doesn't mean it's unreasonable to characterize him as an atheist. Aren't changes in religion possible, or do you cling to Sava's retarded view that religion is encoded within our genes?
      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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      • Originally posted by Felch View Post
        Who is advocating mass discrimination of Muslims?
        so what does "shun them" mean?

        seems like a policy of "shunning" would lead to a set of policies

        or rather, you are advocating everyone secretly just hate muslims and treat them like crap?

        you are a real humanitarian

        You want a moral analysis of Islam?

        All religions suck. The end.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • If I have a conversation with somebody, then the content isn't really private anymore since it's been shared.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • Originally posted by rah View Post
            If I have a conversation with somebody, then the content isn't really private anymore since it's been shared.
            Remind me never to tell you anything in confidence...
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • Originally posted by Sava View Post

              All religions suck.
              *except the church of the holy mary jane and latter day bong hits
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                Remind me never to tell you anything in confidence...
                Sharing in confidence is an entirely different thing.
                My original thought hasn't changed. If I share something with someone I can't consider it private to me anymore.
                And I think that is more what Kid was going for since he even stated that only God would know.
                But then if people can so easily fool themselves into not knowing what they truly are...................maybe they're fooling themselves about the existence of a God.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • Originally posted by rah View Post
                  Sharing in confidence is an entirely different thing.
                  My original thought hasn't changed. If I share something with someone I can't consider it private to me anymore.
                  And I think that is more what Kid was going for since he even stated that only God would know.
                  But then if people can so easily fool themselves into not knowing what they truly are...................maybe they're fooling themselves about the existence of a God.
                  I don't think it's fooling oneself. It's foolish to remain double minded. When you are it's rational to choose what you will believe. Now if you believe that it's ok to lie about your beliefs then your intellect matches your will. But I'm referring to a person that first starts to believe in morality. Then they realize that their actions don't match their intellectual beliefs. Then they pray to God to make them a Christian.

                  Now I don't believe that one can make oneself a Christian. Only God can do that, but one must choose that with his will. But a Christian is a miracle and the greatest evidence for the existence of God. If God has made you a Christian you should have assurance.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                    so what does "shun them" mean?

                    seems like a policy of "shunning" would lead to a set of policies

                    or rather, you are advocating everyone secretly just hate muslims and treat them like crap?

                    you are a real humanitarian

                    You want a moral analysis of Islam?

                    All religions suck. The end.
                    Shun - to keep away from (a place, person, object, etc.), from motives of dislike, caution, etc.; take pains to avoid.

                    Shun - to avoid deliberately and especially habitually

                    Shun - to avoid or refuse to accept someone or something

                    Shunning does not imply a policy of legal discrimination. It never has. I asked you a few pages back to cite a single example where it did mean that, and you were shockingly silent. It's a consistent habit you have. You make these absolutely dishonest statements, back them with definitions of words that nobody else uses except you, and then you run away and hide when people confront you with your lies. You're not half as smart as you seem to think you are, and what's worse, you're too cowardly to admit ever being wrong. So instead of accepting that other people can make valid contributions, you throw these pathetic tantrums when people prove you wrong. Grow up.
                    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                    • personally, blind faith isn't faith at all... if you are a true believer(tm), you aren't doing it right

                      real faith requires doubt
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                        Shun - to keep away from (a place, person, object, etc.), from motives of dislike, caution, etc.; take pains to avoid.

                        Shun - to avoid deliberately and especially habitually

                        Shun - to avoid or refuse to accept someone or something

                        Shunning does not imply a policy of legal discrimination. It never has. I asked you a few pages back to cite a single example where it did mean that, and you were shockingly silent. It's a consistent habit you have. You make these absolutely dishonest statements, back them with definitions of words that nobody else uses except you, and then you run away and hide when people confront you with your lies. You're not half as smart as you seem to think you are, and what's worse, you're too cowardly to admit ever being wrong. So instead of accepting that other people can make valid contributions, you throw these pathetic tantrums when people prove you wrong. Grow up.
                        So the answer is... you just secretly want everyone to hate muslims and treat them like ****

                        just be honest

                        you ****ing pathetic excuse for a person
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • I don't like being mean anymore
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            So the answer is... you just secretly want everyone to hate muslims and treat them like ****

                            just be honest

                            you ****ing pathetic excuse for a person
                            As long as Muslims believe that people who leave Islam deserve to die (i.e. as long as Muslims reject human rights), then people should deliberately and habitually avoid Muslims.

                            You know - what "shun" means.
                            John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                            • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                              As long as Muslims believe that people who leave Islam deserve to die
                              There's no talking to you.

                              Despicable.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • Felch is right

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