Humans Need Not Apply: Fast Food $15 Minimum Wage Strike Edition

[Sava]

It seems to be part of a deeper need to control, present in most authoritarian types. They hate freedom so much that they demand the economic system be based upon the notion that people should have to work all the time in order to support their lives... rather than rely on gains in efficiency to provide true freedom to people.

[C0ckney]

It seems to be part of a deeper need to control, present in most authoritarian types. They hate freedom so much that they demand the economic system be based upon the notion that people should have to work all the time in order to support their lives... rather than rely on gains in efficiency to provide true freedom to people.

that's very true, but there's a lot more going on besides. i've talked at length before about the consumer society, and the way we 'choose' to be part of it, so i won't rake over those old coals. however there's a point to be made about how much of our culture, our world view, indeed our very identities are tied in to work. moving to a future where a large proportion of the population neither will, nor be expected to, work, is going to be massive change.

[molly bloom]

What are we going to do without farming jobs?

And don't forget those all-important sewage workers, cleaning up all the crap you spout.

Stay on, you brave and hardy gongfermors!

[molly bloom]

People will find things to do when robots take over their jobs. .

Yes. Smash the machinery and riot.



The Luddites.

[Hauldren Collider]

Like I said before though, the efficiency implications of such a product are nowhere near the same level as several agricultural advancements have been. We're talking about a machine that makes one type of foodstuff, albeit a popular foodstuff, slightly cheaper (in the longrun, maybe).

DING DING DING DING ^^^^^

We've gone in 200 years from 90%+ of the population being involved in farming to something like 2%. People can still afford food. In fact, strangely enough, people can afford more food! We have an obesity epidemic! Does anyone really believe robots will do more to upend the economic status quo than fertilizers?

This has happened enough times that we already know how it will go: People will lose their jobs, someone will figure out what to do with all the newly unemployed people, and they will get new jobs making new products for people and life will be better for everyone.

[MRT144]

DING DING DING DING ^^^^^

We've gone in 200 years from 90%+ of the population being involved in farming to something like 2%. People can still afford food. In fact, strangely enough, people can afford more food! We have an obesity epidemic! Does anyone really believe robots will do more to upend the economic status quo than fertilizers?

This has happened enough times that we already know how it will go: People will lose their jobs, someone will figure out what to do with all the newly unemployed people, and they will get new jobs making new products for people and life will be better for everyone.

Unless the burgers are flat out terrible or the machines are unreliable to the point that hiring a 19 year old ne'er do well is cheaper.

[The Mad Monk]

The burgers are already flat-out terrible. As noted in the video, the robots needn't be perfect, they merely need to be better than us (aka the "fleeing the bear" scenario).

[Fake Boris]

Someone please come up with an example for me of where goods becoming cheaper led to people being unable to afford said goods TIA

Great Depression

[regexcellent]

Great Depression was deflation--goods didn't become cheaper or easier to produce in a real sense.

[Fake Boris]

Of course they did. Productivity had been on the rise since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

[Dauphin]

Things were cheaper because demand was down, not because supply was up.

[Kidlicious]

It seems to be part of a deeper need to control, present in most authoritarian types. They hate freedom so much that they demand the economic system be based upon the notion that people should have to work all the time in order to support their lives... rather than rely on gains in efficiency to provide true freedom to people.

People without jobs are more lawless - fact.

[Fake Boris]

Things were cheaper because demand was down, not because supply was up.

Supply was up and demand went down anyway. Thus, we can manufacture stuff at a lesser cost and still run across a depression.

[Kidlicious]

Things were cheaper because demand was down, not because supply was up.

Demand actually increased. More land was put into use during the war. Thus supply increased.

[DinoDoc]

Heh