Go, Europe, Go!

[Bereta_Eder]

There's two countries more left wing than argentina in Latin America ATM, Venezuela and Cuba. I wouldn't say they are pinnacles of progress.



If you're trying to convince me that my country is a mess, you're 29 years too late. Incidentally, the far left (communists among them) and far right (catholics among them) have most of the blame.

As was pegging your currency to the dollar

BTW do you think it's fair what happened recently?
That a bunch of loansharks can circumvent a widely agreed settlement with the lenders and based on american law of all things force another "virtual" default?
Some say the judges intentionally ruled using the full extend of the law so as to showcase its absurdity and ultimately having it change

[rah]

The only place in Russia where religion and science co-exist is in Jail.

[N35t0r]

As was pegging your currency to the dollar

BTW do you think it's fair what happened recently?
That a bunch of loansharks can circumvent a widely agreed settlement with the lenders and based on american law of all things force another "virtual" default?
Some say the judges intentionally ruled using the full extend of the law so as to showcase its absurdity and ultimately having it change

Pegging the currency to the dollar was a smart thing to do at the time, it provided well-needed stability to the economy (we had had 5-digit inflation in 1989). What was dumb was to try and maintain it for as long as we did.

Eh, I think the system is ****ed up in may respects. Fair? It is definitely not fair to the people who sold the debt at dirt cheap prices to the loan sharks. We made the settlement knowing that we would have to deal with the hold-outs, and so that we would be able to borrow more. And we did borrow that money to begin with. We're not going to die if we repay a small portion in full.

Frankly, I think the hold-outs are among the least of our problems, but as usual the government uses them to generate positive publicity and local support.

[Serb]

Technically, yes.

How it's technically "yes", if you have to pay for the education, as you have written below?

If done right? It couldn't. Over here, among the first things a family pays for after basic necessities are covered is private school for their kids.

So, you have to pay for the education.

But how a society where a certain amount of people don't have access to education, just because they are not rich enough to pay for it? Do you honestly believe that kids a differ by birth? That a kid born in a poor family is dumber, than a kid born in a rich family?

Kids are kids. They are the same. And if one society fails to provide to all of them the same access to education to open their talents, I don't see how such society could claim it's more advanced in terms of striving to progress. For me, the society, which gives free education to EVERY kids is WAY more advanced and WAY more progress-striving, than a capitalist World where human society is polarized by birth.


You know, the main problem why Yanks don't understand us (ok, me in particularly) is that they have never lived in a different society, except their beloved Capitalism.

I have lived.

That's the main difference between us - they have no f*cking clue what they are talking about, they just repeat laughable stamps.

I was born in the USSR, I was 14 when it's collapsed in 1991. Since that moment 23 years have passed. And I can compare a Capitalist society we are living now in Russia, with the Soviet society we had back then.

And you know what? Despite its all drawbacks and some absolutely stupid things, that Soviet society was MUCH, incredibly MUCH more FAIR and JUST, than the Capitalism, even considering all its drawbacks. REALLY.

[Serb]

The only place in Russia where religion and science co-exist is in Jail.

So, you fell to one-liners? Common, tell us something about Soviet Russia, then.

Clown.

[Serb]

Pegging the currency to the dollar was a smart thing to do at the time,

This is how you pay your tribute to your master (US of A). If you consider paying a tribute a smart thing, well, keep defaulting then. I'm sure the advisers from IMF already shown you the way.

[Bereta_Eder]

We're not going to die if we repay a small portion in full.

Well, that's not so simple I think.
Paying in full would basically make former lenders you've already repayed at lower rates (through a mutually agreed compromise) feel like w@nkers.
Not only that, they could file for full re-emburshment which would basically blow up the whole deal in the air and thoroughly ruin the economy.

That's why I said the ruling was at best moroning, at worse it deliberately perpetuates something that could be resolved now.

BTW I pass by a statue of bolivar (I think he's called) on my way to work
Not an argentinian but a symbol for latin american independence I think!
(I really like your other two famous argentinians. maradona and che

[Serb]

Bah, Maradona is a cheater


Bolivar and Guevara

[molly bloom]

You know, the main problem why Yanks don't understand us (ok, me in particularly) is that they have never lived in a different society, except their beloved Capitalism.

As much as I despise many aspects of the American system, it is infinitely preferable to living under Tsarism, Leninist Bolshevism, Stalinist state capitalism, post-Stalinist state capitalism or gangster/kleptocrat state capitalism.

Yes, there was state racism and almost institutionalized repression of the working classes, but even during the McCarthy era or during the worst of the Cold War, the American government never managed to kill as many of its OWN citizens as the U.S.S.R. .

[Serb]

The USSR where I was born and where I lived haven't killed its own citizens.

[The Mad Monk]

Gorbachev

[Serb]

I was born when Brezhnev ruled the country.

Sure, for you Gorby is he is your doggi after all. For us Gorbachev is a traitor and a criminal.

[Dauphin]

For not killing his own people? Seems harsh.

[The Mad Monk]

I was born when Brezhnev ruled the country.

Sure, for you Gorby is he is your doggi after all. For us Gorbachev is a traitor and a criminal.

You were five when Brezhnev died.

[Serb]

But I still remember his funeral.