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  • #16
    Define it as you want, but do so with the recognition that it's the costliest thing you possess and should be deeply cherised..
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #17
      how do you define it sloww, what do you think it is?
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #18
        Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
        and how do you apply such a spiritual conception to the real world? or do you think that freedom is in fact only an internal matter and not something which acts upon the outside and others?
        The idea is that the main purpose of life is to improve your virtues through physical and intellectual exercises. If you do so properly, you will "calibrate" yourself so that your connection with the rest of the world should not be something to worry about. It will come naturally.

        You can trust your virtues. Proper thinking and action will follow from their nurturing.
        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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        • #19
          Freedom can have any number of meanings, which makes it very useful for equivocation and as a buzzword or rallying point. We can all like freedom even if we have totally different ideas of what it is.

          EDIT: Note that, for example, if you're pro-gun, you want to be free to protect yourself, hunt, feel safe against hypothetical tyrants, etc. If you're anti-gun, you want to be free from anxiety about armed lunatics and such. Either way, you're pro-freedom.

          Or, if that doesn't work for you, freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. As good a definition as any, I guess.
          Last edited by Elok; July 30, 2014, 19:39.
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          • #20
            Freedom is not caring. As long as you really don't care, whatever you don't care about has no hold on you. You are free. And empty and alone ...

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            • #21
              It's not "doing whatever you want" as someone suggested. Just think about it.
              Freedom is having the opportunity for happiness as all others.Doing whatever you want could trample others same right.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #22
                Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose... Nothing is nothing if it ain't free!

                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Elok View Post
                  Freedom can have any number of meanings, which makes it very useful for equivocation and as a buzzword or rallying point. We can all like freedom even if we have totally different ideas of what it is.

                  EDIT: Note that, for example, if you're pro-gun, you want to be free to protect yourself, hunt, feel safe against hypothetical tyrants, etc. If you're anti-gun, you want to be free from anxiety about armed lunatics and such. Either way, you're pro-freedom.

                  Or, if that doesn't work for you, freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. As good a definition as any, I guess.
                  You do not have to be pro-gun, to want to protect or defend yourself.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #24
                    You have better chance of protection with a gun rather than hitting them with your purse.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #25
                      "My fellow Earthicans, we enjoy so much freedom it's almost sickening. We're free to choose which hand our sex-monitoring chip is implanted in. And if we don't want to pay our taxes, why, we're free to spend a weekend with the Pain Monster."
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                        You have better chance of protection with a gun rather than hitting them with your purse.
                        You have a better chance of being protected without millions of crazed gun loons running around.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #27
                          Perhaps, but it's better to be safe than sorry. For example, I was breaking into someone's house last night and noticed that he has a handgun in his cabinet. So now I'm learning how to use it so that that the next time I break in, I'll be prepared.
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • #28
                            freedom is the absence of coercion or constraint, raping children aint a freedom

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                            • #29
                              Freedom? Freedom is worship-word.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                                raping children aint a freedom
                                Not currently.

                                Well, depends what church you go to.
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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