Drunk Drivers' Rights?

[Ben Kenobi]

I don't know why my age matters. I lived with an alcoholic for 18 years though. My father's response when asked about his alcohol use when I asked about it mirror yours. I didn't believe him either.

Interesting. Did not know that, Dinodoc.

[Ben Kenobi]

So you gripe about your freedom but you claim the right to decide what everyone eats because of obesity?

If I'm paying for your medical care, yes I have the right to tell you what you can or can't eat. Pay for your own ****.

I imagine you'd also have the right to decide how much exercise we get or how much TV we watch too, right? Any part of our lives you consider off limits from your freedom loving dictates?

If you're forcing me at gunpoint to pay for your free ****, absolutely I have that right.

[DinoDoc]

Berzerker has already said otherwise. I don't know how this misunderstanding arose but I'm guessing you didn't read properly.

I read it properly. He's arguing that taking another intoxicant while under the influence of another one will improve his ability to drive. If he makes that a regular habit, I'd argue that he should loose his license to drive.

[DinoDoc]

You should read his posts, you're mimicking his arguments. But I haven't had an accident in ~30 years and I wasn't under the influence of booze or pot or any other drugs when that happened. In fact I've never had an accident while under the influence. I think age is the more relevant factor...So how old are you? I know Ben's a young'en, do ya think he'd complain if his license to drive was lifted because his age group causes more accidents?

I don't know why my age matters. I lived with an alcoholic for 18 years though. My father's response when asked about his alcohol use when I asked about it mirror yours. I didn't believe him either.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

So far, Felch, Berz and Sava have all argued in favor of pot making you drive better. All three are quite notable dope activists here.

Berzerker has already said otherwise. I don't know how this misunderstanding arose but I'm guessing you didn't read properly.

[Berzerker]

So far, Felch, Berz and Sava have all argued in favor of pot making you drive better. All three are quite notable dope activists here.

Thats not true, I said pot makes me less reckless and more cautious when driving drunk

not that I do it any more, I gave up the herb and cut down on the alcohol because I got acid reflux from bad posture and poor eating habits - lying down after late night meals is a no-no.

Now I suppose you'd have the government send nuns armed with rulers around to whack us for poor posture. You're paying for it, Ben...same principle.

[Berzerker]

I'm merely dealing with what you wrote. I haven't even read Ben's posts this thread. I do know that I'm glad I don't live where you are likely to be driving though.

You should read his posts, you're mimicking his arguments. But I haven't had an accident in ~30 years and I wasn't under the influence of booze or pot or any other drugs when that happened. In fact I've never had an accident while under the influence. I think age is the more relevant factor...So how old are you? I know Ben's a young'en, do ya think he'd complain if his license to drive was lifted because his age group causes more accidents?

Damn straight it does. I thought you were a libertarian. Pay for your own ****. How do you think I feel about medical pot activists arguing about publicly funded pot when I'm in the grocery store buying my food? I spend more funding other people's **** than I do my own!

So you gripe about your freedom but you claim the right to decide what everyone eats because of obesity? I imagine you'd also have the right to decide how much exercise we get or how much TV we watch too, right? Any part of our lives you consider off limits from your freedom loving dictates?

[Ben Kenobi]

3/3? Where are you getting these imaginary numbers?

So far, Felch, Berz and Sava have all argued in favor of pot making you drive better. All three are quite notable dope activists here.

[Ben Kenobi]

You're paying for the medical care of obese people, does that give you the right to decide what we all eat too? You complain about your lack of freedom while telling us you get to make our decisions?

Damn straight it does. I thought you were a libertarian. Pay for your own ****. How do you think I feel about medical pot activists arguing about publicly funded pot when I'm in the grocery store buying my food? I spend more funding other people's **** than I do my own!

[AAAAAAAAH!]

So far we're 3/3 for pot users and dealers claiming that gettin' high enhances your driving capabilities.

This confirms my own experience in lending my car to pot users. Same attitude. And of course none of 'em are gonna pay me back for getting my car impounded. ****ers.

3/3? Where are you getting these imaginary numbers?

[DinoDoc]

or that... Is Ben your mentor?

I'm merely dealing with what you wrote. I haven't even read Ben's posts this thread. I do know that I'm glad I don't live where you are likely to be driving though.

[Berzerker]

So far we're 3/3 for pot users and dealers claiming that gettin' high enhances your driving capabilities.

Who said that?

Addicts claiming that "one more for the road won't hurt". Quel surprise.

Nobody said that either

They claim booze doesn't negatively effect their driving pointing to all the times they got home without killing someone. I'm not sure how much weight to give an addict's opinion on how much their drug of choice changes their behavior when they are high though. I'm leaning toward not much.

or that... Is Ben your mentor?

[Berzerker]

Thank God you're not forcing me to pay for your medical care. Oh wait. I'm paying for ****ing contraception.

You're paying for the medical care of obese people, does that give you the right to decide what we all eat too? You complain about your lack of freedom while telling us you get to make our decisions?

[DinoDoc]

They say using pot makes them more cautious when driving drunk?

They claim booze doesn't negatively effect their driving pointing to all the times they got home without killing someone. I'm not sure how much weight to give an addict's opinion on how much their drug of choice changes their behavior when they are high though. I'm leaning toward not much.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm not an alcoholic but I do know how these chemicals effect my driving better than you

Addicts claiming that "one more for the road won't hurt". Quel surprise.