Israeli Police Beat 15 year old American Citizen

[Sava]

28 casualties from rockets since 2001.

[Sava]

IDF rapes more dead children in a week

[Dinner]

A really great podcast which really deals with things in a fair and balanced manner including the hard questions about the fundamental difference between Israel and the Palestinians. Well worth listening to even though I know the Israel haters won't bother.

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/why-dont-i-criticize-israel

[Felch]

28 casualties from rockets since 2001.

That's because Israel is a good country. Good countries protect their civilian population, with shelters and active defenses like the Iron Dome. Evil countries cynically use children as human shields while the political elites hide in underground bunkers.

Israel = good

Hamas = evil

[Sava]

I take it back!

[My Wife Hates CIV]

iron dome... cool

it gets better with every try

[Sava]

That's because Israel is a good country. Good countries protect their civilian population, with shelters and active defenses like the Iron Dome. Evil countries cynically use children as human shields while the political elites hide in underground bunkers.

Israel = good

Hamas = evil

Simpleton absolutes aside, if you feel that way, you should be extra upset at Israel for distracting everyone by murdering 2,400+ people.

Take this interview. This Hamas guy is an absolute piece of filth. I'd much rather focus my ire at him, but I can't do that while Israel's off creating more death and destruction (even among their own people... over 60 IDF soldiers dead in this op, 28 people died from Hamas rockets the previous 13 years) than Hamas could ever hope.

That's right. Israeli policy has killed more Israeli's in the last few weeks than Hamas rockets have in 13 years.

That's not indicative of a "good" nation. It's indicative of a complete ****ing retarded one.

[N35t0r]

That's because Israel is a good country. Good countries protect their civilian population, with shelters and active defenses like the Iron Dome. Evil countries cynically use children as human shields while the political elites hide in underground bunkers.

Israel = good

Hamas = evil

Indeed. Which is why I hold them to higher standards.

[Sava]

What's the difference between a Zionist and an Islamic fundamentalist?

Israel-Gaza conflict: Right-wing Israeli politician calls for Gazans to be ’concentrated in camps’ – and then all resistance ‘exterminated’

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-rightwing-israeli-politician-calls-for-gazans-to-be-concentrated-in-camps--and-then-all-resistance-exterminated-9649103.html

No honestly, please someone tell me how these two groups are different. I don't see a distinction... in rhetoric, in policy... none.

And can a UKer please break down the major UK news sources for me?
I understand who the Guardian and BBC are, their editorial tilts, etc. Which sources should I consider to be junk?

[molly bloom]

. Which sources should I consider to be junk?

Chinese ones.

[Sava]

[Fake Boris]

That's because Israel is a good country. Good countries protect their civilian population, with shelters and active defenses like the Iron Dome. Evil countries cynically use children as human shields while the political elites hide in underground bunkers.

Israel = good

Hamas = evil

So if the children are used as human shields, why don't they carry them over to their hiding place?

[DinoDoc]

Take this interview. This Hamas guy is an absolute piece of filth. I'd much rather focus my ire at him,

Why does it have to be one or the other? Are you unable to have enough hate for both?

[Fake Boris]

"Human shields" is the typical excuse you invoke when your overwhelming superiority means you're shelling civilian areas. Hamas doesn't use shields.

[DinoDoc]

"Human shields" is the typical excuse you invoke when your overwhelming superiority means you're shelling civilian areas. Hamas doesn't use shields.

Really?

Rockets launched from hospital