Israeli Police Beat 15 year old American Citizen

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What it definitely isn't is Israel trying to build support for another government or even its own. Israel couldn't care less who's running the damn place as long as nobody's shooting at its citizens.

Israel doesn't need to destroy every mortar and rocket. It could, but that's not necessary. It just has to destroy enough of them to keep things quiet for a while. That's what it did in 2009. It's not counter-insurgency and it's DEFINITELY not foreign internal defense. It's just crippling Hamas for a while until it's time to go back and do it again.

If Israel wanted to end this once and for all, it could do this by forcing an unconditional surrender with a real siege, the kind where not a single thing, no food or water or people moves across the siege line. That would do too much harm to the civilian population so it won't.

[Dinner]

Okay DD, tell us, in a concrete matter, what does Palestine need to do and under what terms a peace treaty should be signed?

Stop attacking Israel, sign a treaty which looks very much like Clinton's peace proposal, and learn to stop trying to kill everyone else. Until then...

[Fake Boris]

He's absolutely correct too as well as more efficient at writing than you.

When Palestinians learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews then peace will be possible but not before because it is impossible to make peace when one side continues to demand the other side all be killed.

All right, I'll ask of you the same I asked of DinoDoc.

Tell us in concrete terms how "loving your children more than hating Jews" translates into a political solution.

[Dinner]

You have poor reading skills as that question has already been answered even if you don't like the answer. See the post above yours.

[Al B. Sure!]

What it definitely isn't is Israel trying to build support for another government or even its own. Israel couldn't care less who's running the damn place as long as nobody's shooting at its citizens.

And no, Israel can't destroy every mortar and rocket. It also doesn't need to. It just has to destroy enough of them to keep things quiet for a while. That's what it did in 2009. It's not counter-insurgency and it's DEFINITELY not foreign internal defense. It's just crippling Hamas for a while until it's time to go back and do it again.

So no lasting peace? Just a recurring cycle of bloodshed? Just because Hamas wants eternal bloodshed, doesn't mean Israel has to go along with it.

[regexcellent]

All right, I'll ask of you the same I asked of DinoDoc.

Tell us in concrete terms how "loving your children more than hating Jews" translates into a political solution.

Not sending your kids to be suicide bombers or human shields for missile attacks.

[Fake Boris]

Stop attacking Israel, sign a treaty which looks very much like Clinton's peace proposal, and learn to stop trying to kill everyone else. Until then...

The problem is that many new settlements have been established since then and Israel shows no sign of giving them up.

[regexcellent]

So no lasting peace? Just a recurring cycle of bloodshed? Just because Hamas wants eternal bloodshed, doesn't mean Israel has to go along with it.

It does, actually, unless Israel is willing to go as far as is necessary to bring Hamas to its knees. Which it isn't.

[Fake Boris]

Not sending your kids to be suicide bombers or human shields for missile attacks.

Please describe the terms of the peace treaty wrt to refugees, settlements, enclaves, access to water, etc.

[Fake Boris]

Not sending your kids to be suicide bombers or human shields for missile attacks.

And BTW, there hasn't been any suicide bombing for 6 years.

[DinoDoc]

And BTW, there hasn't been any suicide bombing for 6 years.

Israel's Security Fence: Effective in Reducing Suicide Attacks from the Northern West Bank

[Fake Boris]

What it definitely isn't is Israel trying to build support for another government or even its own. Israel couldn't care less who's running the damn place as long as nobody's shooting at its citizens.

This is wrong as usual. Israel is very concerned by the possibility of union governments between the warring Palestinian factions. Which is why every formation of a union cabinet is followed by a military attack - the idea being that the tensions of war will contribute to dismantle the unity and leave the Palestinians weakened.

[Fake Boris]

Israel's Security Fence: Effective in Reducing Suicide Attacks from the Northern West Bank

Very correct. If Israel is already secure, why do they need to conduct military operations?

Hint: annexion of land

[DinoDoc]

Very correct. If Israel is already secure, why do they need to conduct military operations?

You might have noticed the ungodly number of missiles raining down on them recently. Also you appear to have been wrong about no suicide bombers: Israeli forces prevent suspected suicide bomb attempt

[Fake Boris]

You might have noticed the ungodly number of missiles raining down on them recently. Also you appear to have been wrong about no suicide bombers: Israeli forces prevent suspected suicide bomb attempt

From your own source:

Man wearing explosives under heavy coat at West Bank checkpoint would have been first suicide bomber in six years