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  • June 2, 2014 at 1:00 am
    Men's rights conference in Detroit raises security concerns
    Charles E. Ramirez
    The Detroit News
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    Detroit— A controversial men’s rights group is holding its first conference in Detroit, and its host hotel wants organizers to hire police officers as security because of death threats.

    The Houston-based group A Voice for Men is hosting its International Conference on Men’s Issues June 27 and 28 at the Hilton Doubletree Guest Suites Fort Shelby on W. Lafayette. Speakers will address what they say is prejudice against men, “antifeminism” and corruption of family courts.

    More than 2,000 people have signed an online petition seeking to cancel the conference, and the hotel last week informed the group it needed to hire extra security.

    “We have received numerous calls and threats and are concerned for the safety and well-being of our employees, our guests and your attendees,” hotel officials wrote in a letter dated Thursday to Paul Elam, A Voice for Men’s founder and publisher.

    “The threats have escalated to include death threats, physical violence against our staff and and other guests as well as damage to the property.”

    Elam provided a copy of the letter to The Detroit News. He said the group is in the process of spending $25,000 to hire seven off-duty Detroit police officers to work the event.

    “We’re not surprised there’s resistance,” Elam said. “We understand that a lot of our ideas are very new and take some time for people to comprehend. We expect backlash and resistance.

    “What we didn’t expect is the lives of innocent people who work at the hotel and guests who are unrelated to our activities would be threatened. ... It’s a new low and it’s very disappointing.”

    In 2012, the Southern Poverty Law Center called men’s rights groups like A Voice for Men “women haters whose fury goes well beyond criticism of the family court system, domestic violence laws, and false rape accusations.”

    Elam defended his group and blog in an article, claiming the law center has drifted toward “the persecution of individuals and groups from opposing mainstream political camps.”

    He said academics, attorneys, authors and human rights advocates are expected for the conference, A Voice for Men’s first official event. Capacity is 300 and organizers plan to add a spill-over room to accommodate an additional 100 people, he said.

    Fort Shelby owner Emmett Moten said he wasn’t aware of the conference or threats, but said it’s not unusual for hotels to require additional security.

    Officer Adam Madera, a Detroit police spokesman, confirmed hotel officials recently contacted the department about hiring off-duty officers who work in the Secondary Employment program. The program was established by the city in 2011 and allows uniformed off-duty officers to moonlight as security guards.

    “We provided them with information about the program, but other than that, we haven’t received any word about threats,” he said.


    Staff Writer George Hunter contributed.


    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz33yrgxbqP
    This must be it. kentinio, you piece of **** lying hack!

    The article states death threats were made and doesn't question that.

    They did ask the hotel owner if he was aware of the threats. The owner said no. The owner did not say or imply in any way that the threats did not happen or that the letter is a forgery.

    They asked the police, and they gave a similar reply.
    Last edited by Kidlicious; June 7, 2014, 14:48.
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    • Somehow your princesses we not raped by the male-supremist counter protesters today kentinio. I'm sure you are relieved.
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      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        This must be it. kentinio, you piece of **** lying hack!

        The article states death threats were made and doesn't question that.
        No, the article says that the hotel said there were death threats. It says that because AVFM showed them the letter in question. What it doesn't in any way answer is why if death threats were made no-one bothered letting the hotel owner or more importantly the police know.

        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        They did ask the hotel owner if he was aware of the threats. The owner said no. The owner did not say or imply in any way that the threats did not happen or that the letter is a forgery.
        No-one ever said that the owner said it was a forgery, don't call me a liar and then start making **** up you crazy ****.

        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        They asked the police, and they gave a similar reply.
        No they didn't. Here's the Detroit Free Press version which gives a longer version of what the police said..

        A spokesman with the Detroit Police Department said he could not find any police reports of death threats and said it’s “very unusual” that police wouldn’t be contacted for a death threat.

        “We’re definitely going to look into it,” said Officer Adam Madera.

        He said officials with the DoubleTree contacted its the department’s secondary employment unit — which allows for businesses and other organizations to request police officers at events — but they did not specify why.
        http://www.freep.com/article/2014060...hreats-Detroit

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        • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
          Somehow your princesses we not raped by the male-supremist counter protesters today kentinio. I'm sure you are relieved.
          My money would have been on the feminists to be honest. You lot are apparently a bunch of little pussies who **** in your breeches at the idea of an independant woman raising her voice at you.

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          • How about you explain to everyone what register-her is Kid, and provide an explanation for why you think it's acceptable to have a site showing the names, addresses, places of work and apparently routes taken to work by women who have stood up to the MRA groups or in some cases just said things your group disagrees with?

            If you need a little help, here's Paul Elam's take on someone asking Wiki whether this would contravene their policies..

            Originally posted by Paul Elam
            You should also be able to ascertain, if you are not too terribly stupid that I like, no, love, doing this. You should see that I am not doing it for money or fame, but because I can’t imagine doing anything else with my life.

            Now, let me ask you something. Do you think I am going to stop?

            It’s a serious question, because the answer to that question, again if you are not too stupid to grasp the impact of it, should inform you of what will work for you or not work for you in dealing with me.

            And the answer is, of course, no, I am not going to stop. You see, I find you, as a feminist, to be a loathsome, vile piece of human garbage. I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of ****ing your **** up gives me an erection.

            So, again, do you think I am going to stop?

            One again, a very important question, because consider this: Your email and attempt to undermine my work with Wikipedia has already backfired on you.

            I am using it, in this very article, to point to the enemy (that would be you) and serve it up to my many readers who find you as disgusting as I do. And if Wikipedia revokes my license to use their software, I will rebuild the site with .asp or some other technology and use Wiki’s attempt to censor me in several articles, drawing even more traffic to the site.

            Either way, I win, you lose.

            That is the deal here, you ****ing moron. Your only real hope is to keep your mouth shut and pretend AVfM and register-her.com does not exist for as long as you can. Because, as you can see right now, anything you say or do will be thrown back in your face like holy water on a vampire.

            We are coming for you, and we are coming for all the liars out there that have been ruining people’s lives with impunity.

            So write Wikipedia. Write your congressman. Write Jesus Horatio Christ if you want to.

            It won’t do you any good. I will only benefit from it.

            You are SO ****ed.
            www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/activism/the-fembots-are-already-bent-out-of-shape/

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            • Alternatively, if that's too hard, how about you take a shot at defending Mr Elams previous article charmingly entitled 'If You See Jezebel in the Road, Run the ***** Down'. In this peice he exorts men who suffer any kind of violence from a women to beat the living **** out of them. Or to use his words..

              Originally posted by Paul Elam
              I’d like to make it the objective for the remainder of this month, and all the Octobers that follow, for men who are being attacked and physically abused by women - to beat the living **** out of them. I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won’t fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles.
              In typical Elam style he then goes on to say how he's not really serious of course, because people will just end up in jail, before finishing with..

              I will say this, though. To all the men out there that decided to say “Damn the consequences,” and fight back, you are hero’s to the cause of equality; true feminists. And you are the honorary Kings of Bash a Violent ***** Month. You are living proof of just how hollow “don’t **** with us,” rings from the mouths of bullies and hypocrites.

              In he spirit of feminists everywhere, you GO, boy!
              http://web.archive.org/web/201107021...he-*****-down/

              This is the company you keep now Kid?

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              • Your passive-aggressive behaviour disgusts me. You lie and hack and then lol and lie and hack some more when the truth is discovered. I'm done being played by you in this thread. You're pretty much on my ignore list now. You pissed me off more than I should have been pissed off. I haven't been ****ed with like this for a long time. I can't say that if you sink as low as you did in this thread that I won't respond to get the truth out, but the best way to deal with a person like you is not to react.
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                • That's right, I'm clearly just out to get you. It must be really sad living in this paranoid little world you've built up around yourself. You're associating with people who say some truly ****ing horrible things, and instead of facing up to what that means, you've clearly decided to just stick your fingers in your ears and go 'LA LA LA I'm not listening!!'. Real mature.

                  You don't want to face up to the company you're keeping? Ok, fair enough. I'll leave you with this last little article from your new guru. In this one he explains why if he was called for jury duty in a rape trial, he'd acquit the guy regardless of the evidence. To use his exact words..

                  Originally posted by Paul Elam
                  Should I be called to sit on a jury for a rape trial, I vow publicly to vote not guilty, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the charges are true.
                  http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rig...-trial-acquit/

                  Let's hope that woman isn't someone heres wife, sister or daughter eh?

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                  • Also, Jezebel is a passive-aggressive ***** like you. If she pissed someone off like you have in this thread it's no wonder they said something she pretends to not like. Here's a clue; don't be a passive aggresive ***** and people won't react to you negatively. That basically sums up my criticism of you feminists and white knights.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • You are a ****ing coward. You don't have the balls to face up to your new little chums actually being a bunch of mysoginistic scum, so instead you pretend it's all lies when their own ****ing words are right there in front of you. Ok, you want to be counted amongst the kind of people who'd let rapists walk free from court, then so be it.

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                      • Hack hack hack
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • Ok coward, go back to your nasty little friends now. I'm sure there's a woman somewhere you need to stalk.

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                          • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                            Ok coward, go back to your nasty little friends now. I'm sure there's a woman somewhere you need to stalk.
                            Oh that's good. Be more passive-aggressive. Rape! Rape!
                            Last edited by Kidlicious; June 8, 2014, 09:11.
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                            • Just make sure you get Paul Elam on the jury, then you can be sure to walk free. Because apparently that's what Men's Rights actually means.

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                              • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                                Just make sure you get Paul Elam on the jury, then you can be sure to walk free. Because apparently that's what Men's Rights actually means.
                                Good deal cause someone like you will also probably be on the jury.
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