The Impossibility of Growth

[Fake Boris]

LALALALA I'M AN ECOSOCIALIST WHO THINK 3% GDP GROWTH AUTOMATICALLY MEANS 3% MORE TRASH THAN LAST YEAR!!!!!

[Fake Boris]

In case you haven't understood yet, the point is not that growth will go on until the planet explodes.

It is that there cannot be growth for long, therefore, a monetary system that requires growth to function is doomed to failure.

[Fake Boris]

But don't worry. We'll grow organic iPods from solar panels and turn the entire Sahara into a composting facility.

[Geronimo]

Aeson probably thinks we'll make organic cars that are grown from fields.

Then when we lack space to recycle them, we'll make organic steel structures to pile up layers of composting facilities.

Talk about a practical, realistic scenario.

You do realize that organisms have existed for billions of years which decompose inorganic materials right?

[Fake Boris]

And then we'll ship all garbage there using fusion powered supertankers.

[The Mad Monk]

The first step of the plan is to educate people to acknowledge the problem. Which I do - I'm involved in politics where I live.

In the years since the collapse of the USSR destroyed Communism, a new form of political thinking has emerged which is called ecosocialism. You can look it up, there's a lot of literature going around.

FTFY

[Geronimo]

In case you haven't understood yet, the point is not that growth will go on until the planet explodes.

It is that there cannot be growth for long, therefore, a monetary system that requires growth to function is doomed to failure.

Perhaps the time to abandon the dysfunctional monetary system would be when it starts to fail? What is your proposed replacement monetary system? Federation credits?

[The Mad Monk]

And then we'll ship all garbage there using fusion powered supertankers.

Why? They're in our backyards.

[Fake Boris]

You do realize that organisms have existed for billions of years which decompose inorganic materials right?

This is irrelevant.

I have shown already that a recycling rate of 90% only gives 75 extra years of growth.

[Fake Boris]

Why? They're in our backyards.

Everyone has 500 tons of organic thrash in their backyard, which have been designed to regenerate cars, windows, golf clubs and computers.

[The Mad Monk]

How does one thrash organically?

[N35t0r]

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You do realize that that graph doesn't help your point, right?

[N35t0r]

As resources deplete, their price will increase.

Therefore, there will be more "wealth", as reflected in their price.

This is majestic

Dude, this is BKesque in it's totally missing the point and strawmanship.

[Sava]

In case you haven't understood yet, the point is not that growth will go on until the planet explodes.

It is that there cannot be growth for long, therefore, a monetary system that requires growth to function is doomed to failure.

So let it fail.

It's the same thing with the capitalist nincompoops. OMFG COMMUNISM IS SO HORRIBLE IT SUCKS IT WILL FAIL

okay, let if fail

[Fake Boris]

You do realize that that graph doesn't help your point, right?

Why?