An occupational hazard for a thief or justification for a murder charge?

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what a great feeling... I'll never look at a creepy barbie picture again.

[DaShi]

It's so hot!

[DaShi]

Hey gribbler, what's the deal with doing most all your trolling past 11 est? It's turning into a pattern, like a guy who keeps switching to DLs everyone recognizes.

I don't he's trolling because that performance was embarrassing. He'd have more respect, if he actually believed that nonsense.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Whatever. I think plonking and talking about it is a ***** move.

Maybe the little ******* will stay out of the Barbie thread now.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Say, isn't this some OT rite of passage for me? My first drooling wanker making a big deal of plonking me?

PARTY! DRINKS ON GRIBBLER!

[MRT144]

DinoDoc, basically you'd say that if someone ran into your house for any reason and you shot them it isn't murder. Stop being simple for ****'s sake.

[DinoDoc]

DinoDoc, basically you'd say that if someone ran into your house for any reason and you shot them it isn't murder.

Have the good taste to break into my house while I'm gone then.

[Felch]

What everyone other than DD said (yes, I realize there is an disagreement between Felch and Sava on premeditation, but premeditation has never really required a full planned out killing - stopping to think about what you are doing and then killing the person tends to be good enough).

I've checked the statutes in Maryland and at the Federal level. Neither of them define premeditation, but luckily there are dictionaries.

Cambridge Dictionary Online: "thought of or planned before being done"

Oxford Dictionaries: "The action of planning something (especially a crime) beforehand"

Merriam-Webster: "characterized by fully conscious willful intent and a measure of forethought and planning"

The Free Dictionary: "done with willful deliberation; planned in advance."

I believe you that "stopping to think" has counted as premeditation in the past, but I disagree with that definition. Planning is an essential element of premeditation. Jurors have a responsibility to keep over-zealous prosecutors in check.

If it were up to me, I'd call the killing of the girl murder in the second degree.

[onodera]

Worrying about stained carpets seems incompatible with being fearful that one's life is in danger.

Have you ever tried to get someone's blood out of your carpet?

[Sava]

It's not clear that the tarp was set up before the killing. My understanding was that he killed them, then wrapped them up in tarp to conceal them afterwards.

Covering up a crime is an admission of guilt.

[Sava]

If it were up to me, I'd call the killing of the girl murder in the second degree.

I don't care all that much about the particular charge. That's for pedantic lawyers to worry about. Like IMRAN

[molly bloom]

Let's see, would you also be OK if he had raped her and then killed her?

Not if he filmed her without her permission.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

If it were up to me, I'd call the killing of the girl murder in the second degree.

I'd say the time taken, including reloading, qualifies it as premeditation.

What say you, lawyers?

[Felch]

Imran already answered your question. And I explained in my post why I disagree.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

And, like you, I care about what's right more than what the law says, but we have to rely on the law, alas. Several quiet minutes spent reloading blows a hole in a heat of passion argument almost as big as the holes he coldly and deliberately blew in her. Plenty of time to reconsider while she was at his mercy; mercy he didn't extend.

I think Sid did an edit after I saw the post fresh, but I stand corrected on that. He did sorta say.