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And yes, it's being a buddy ****er, because being able to do one or two more pushups or situps doesn't actually ****ing matter--have some perspective, please--but it does get considered when you're assigned your branch and post assignment. That does matter.
Wrong.
Doing sit ups and push ups helps storm a beach. Didn't you see Saving Private Ryan?
Alby, I know you've read Terminal Lance. I just want you to know, when the author makes fun of lieutenants, you are exactly the type of lieutenant he's thinking of. The kind that has been completely brainwashed by OCS and is obsessed to a pathological degree with PT and physical fitness.
What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation
What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation
Alby seems to have fanatical devotion to his morals and values. I can't knock him for that. I personally wish I could be so upright. I think it would be uncomfortable too be around Alby for a long period because he holds his views so strongly as does not waiver.
And while I can't knock you Alby. I think you should realize that there are some grays in life.
As far as moonlighting. Alby is a marine. No matter what he does from this point he will always be that.
What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation
Third, yes, it's being a buddy ****er, because being able to do one or two more pushups or situps doesn't actually ****ing matter--have some perspective, please--but it does get considered when you're assigned your branch and post assignment. That does matter. (Also, for the record, I never counted anyone's push-ups, only the MS3 cadets did that)
Would you shut the **** up reg and stop making **** up off the top of your head.
No, your PT scores do not matter for anything of real importance other than whether you passed or failed. They have nothing to do with branch or specialty/MOS/designator assignment other than passing or failing outside of very niche things like SEALs and other SOF stuff and even here its just whether you passed or failed their standard not how much better you did beyond that. Yeah some ROTC punk like you might have gotten a certificate of awesome a clerk drew up from the share drive and printed out five minutes before to stroke your young ego but thats about it. Even in training regimens where there is cadet rank where PT scores may matter that's totally internal to that training regimen. Cadet ensign or cadet captain, in the end those selecting designators will see nothing but academics and any instructor recommendations. In the actual active service enlisted Evals and officer Fitreps generally have nothing more than the equivalent of the navy's "P/WS" or passed within standards. This is used regardless whether you just squeaked by or maxed. The Marine Corps is again unique in that they put a three digit score as well, but in the end all that matters is that you passed.
Your made up BS is even more funny here because the Marine Corps does something no other service does regarding MOS assignment. Everywhere else its basically top performers pick their preferences and these are generally followed after the needs of the service are factored in. In the Marine Corps TBS grads are divided into quintiles and every MOS gets a portion of each. They do this because outside idiot arm chair generals like you they realize there is no MOS that's more important than another (especially based on physical fitness) as each one is required to meet the end goal, thus all of them get some of the best and some of the worst and they get an even talent pool Corps wide.
I am not a butter bar just out of OCS, but even a butter bar like Albie has more gravitas over you who are quite literally a nobody when it comes to knowledge or experience here. If you didn't want to serve fine. If it you did but it wasn't a fit for you then great, I prefer that mature choice over trying to be something you are not. And I would not claim that someone who makes those decisions is a lesser person or that there are not things just as fulfilling career or service wise. And those who do serve in the military are not ubermench nor paragons of virtue and morality. Throughout history this was never considered the case and we received accolades based on what we did without us or the public thinking our **** didn't stink. We as a military are victims of our own messaging in that we started to believe the stories people told about us despite our better knowledge until they became our own stories which we believed even more readily, the end result being impossible standards being applied to us and us expecting impossible standards which are both irrelevant to the job we actually do. Is anyone really surprised such standards are not met?
That being said the fact that I am not a god walking amongst you mere mortals does not mean I am some knuckle dragger you as a completely untried and untested brat without an accomplishment to your name should feel capable of measuring yourself up against on this subject. You are literally jack **** to me, not because I am better than you but because you are utterly irrelevant to everything you are commenting on here regarding my profession. If you have questions great. If you have ideas great. If you would like to talk about either great. You don't though, what you have is juvenile rants and judgements based on your time as **** stain boot ROTC quitter. Your hostility makes it clear you did not make a mature decision I spoke of earlier but are rather a bitter child with pretensions of superiority. Grow up.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
Patroklos, PT scores in army ROTC affect your standing on the order of merit list which is important for your branch and I believe post assignment when you graduate. That's all I was talking about. (also it affects whether or not you get a scholarship, if you seek one)
edit: and actually the army or at least army ROTC does the same thing with branch assignments where it splits up the OML into different performance groups and each branch gets some portion of each group, but the top 10% get their first choice. And below a certain point you're forced to go into the reserves.
Last edited by regexcellent; April 26, 2014, 23:14.
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