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  • #31
    Originally posted by AAAAAAAAH! View Post
    I think it's reasonable to believe that someone who founded a major religion was in some ways remarkable.
    I'd assume a certain level of charisma was an essential, but I'd put most of it down to sheer luck. There have been countless wannabe prophets and cult leaders, I don't think it's as much a merit based system as it is one where the right set of conditions happen to be in place for a following to turn into a phenomena. Would Christianity have taken off if the Roman governors of the time had been more lenient or the Jewish elders more representative of their people?

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    • #32
      I credit the mopes who lived 100+ years after Jesus with founding the religion. Jesus (the myth) would be appalled at "Christianity".

      The historical Jesus would probably enjoy being treated as a messiah... because (if he existed) he was a human being... flawed, twisted and evil.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by kentonio View Post
        I'd assume a certain level of charisma was an essential, but I'd put most of it down to sheer luck. There have been countless wannabe prophets and cult leaders, I don't think it's as much a merit based system as it is one where the right set of conditions happen to be in place for a following to turn into a phenomena. Would Christianity have taken off if the Roman governors of the time had been more lenient or the Jewish elders more representative of their people?
        "Luck" doesn't really explain anything. You might as well say "I don't know why Jesus's following continued after his death while most prophets, preachers and faith healers lost their followers".

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        • #34
          Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
          Do the branches of Christianity that have married ministers a couple of millennia after his death care about the issue?
          Originally posted by kentonio View Post
          I don't know, I assume we have Anglicans here who could say whether a single celibate Jesus is a major part of their religion or not.


          Kentonio, do you know so little about the Christian faith that only ANGLICANS have married ministers?
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post


            Kentonio, do you know so little about the Christian faith that only ANGLICANS have married ministers?
            Orthodox do.

            converts are the worst
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #36
              Kentonio is a convert?

              (ie, I think you misinterpreted the post)
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                Kentonio is a convert?
                Probably an atheist.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                  Kentonio is a convert?

                  (ie, I think you misinterpreted the post)
                  I blame
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by rah View Post
                    I'm going to rush out and write on a piece of paper that JESUS said his "gay lover" so a century or so down the road when someone looks at it, they'll realize that Jesus was Gay.
                    What about Obama is a Muslim. "It says on this paper Obama was a Muslim! That makes much more sense!"
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post


                      Kentonio, do you know so little about the Christian faith that only ANGLICANS have married ministers?
                      Given that you're choosing to be patronizing, please explain why ministers choosing to marry would necessarily define Anglicans position on Jesus own celibacy (or lack of).

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                      • #41
                        But Brown University Professor Leo Depuydt, in an analysis also published Thursday by the Harvard Theological Review, was not convinced. He said the text contains grammatical errors a native Coptic speaker would not make.
                        AP

                        http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/wor...254852121.html
                        There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                        • #42
                          Leo Depuydt

                          "de-pee"?
                          "de-pud"?



                          de plane?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            Leo Depuydt

                            "de-pee"?
                            "de-pud"?



                            de plane?
                            Un-funny.

                            De-ny.

                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                            • #44
                              one day, a small child is going to randomly stab you
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sava View Post
                                one day, a small child is going to randomly stab you
                                I've seen 'Don't Look Now'.

                                Never trust a small girl in a red duffle coat or anorak. Especially in Venice.


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                                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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