Wedding Crashers - Jesus Edition

[kentonio]

Ancient, controversial papyrus ‘Gospel of Jesus’ Wife’ not fake: new tests

Teams of scientists conclude the artifact quoting Jesus referring to ‘my wife’ is not bogus. The Harvard Theological Review says the old slip is an ancient document dating from the sixth to ninth centuries.

Recent tests show a small piece of papyrus containing the words "Jesus said to them, my wife" is an authentic document dating from A.D. 659 to 859.

Analyses of the papyrus and carbon ink determined its origin date, the Harvard Divinity School said in a statement Thursday.

"None of the testing has produced any evidence that the fragment is a modern fabrication or forgery," the divinity school said.

The scrap, about the size of a business card, was revealed in 2012, creating an uproar among religious experts and church leaders because of its reference to Jesus' "wife." Its existence was announced by Karen King, Hollis Professor of Divinity at Harvard Divinity School.

But King says the fragment does not mean Jesus had a wife, but rather is an affirmation that "that women who are mothers and wives can be disciples of Jesus — a topic that was hotly debated in early Christianity as celibate virginity increasingly became highly valued," King explained in the statement.

The recent tests included radiocarbon dating done at Harvard University and a microspectroscopy performed at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The latter test helps assess damage caused by time as well as authenticity.

In the tiny document, Jesus is quoted mentioning his mother, his wife and a female disciple. The author of the text is not known. It's written in Coptic and is believed to have come from Egypt.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1752652

Funny how he manages to explain it away as not meaning what it actually says.

[Lorizael]

So it's true then that there's a piece of paper from the 6th to 9th centuries AD which contains the phrase, "Jesus said to them, my wife." Got it.

[Lorizael]

Or...

You'll never believe what my wife did to that goat last night.

[DaShi]

¹⁵And thus Jesus continued, "And then I said, 'That's no Pharisee, that's my wife!'" ¹⁶And much merriment was had by all.

[kentonio]

So it's true then that there's a piece of paper from the 6th to 9th centuries AD which contains the phrase, "Jesus said to them, my wife." Got it.

Glad you're paying attention, well done.

[Lorizael]

Well, that's what I took from the article. What did you take from it?

[kentonio]

Why do you think I took anything in particular from it, beyond it being interesting?

[AAAAAAAAH!]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1752652

Funny how he manages to explain it away as not meaning what it actually says.

What makes you so sure you know better than a professor at Harvard Divinity School?

[kentonio]

What makes you so sure you know better than a professor at Harvard Divinity School?

Hmm, I wonder why a professor at a religious school might have a vested interest in not contradicting an established belief of his own religion..

It's not about being sure of anything incidentally, I just find it funny. If Jesus existed he was just a normal man, so why shouldnt he have a wife? For that period of history it'd have been bizarre if he didn't.

[Kidlicious]

I have no idea why this is controversial or even interesting.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Hmm, I wonder why a professor at a religious school might have a vested interest in not contradicting an established belief of his own religion..

It's not about being sure of anything incidentally, I just find it funny. If Jesus existed he was just a normal man, so why shouldnt he have a wife? For that period of history it'd have been bizarre if he didn't.

I don't know what her religious beliefs are. Do you assume all academic Theologians are fundamentalist Christians?

[Lorizael]

Hmm, I wonder why a professor at a religious school might have a vested interest in not contradicting an established belief of his own religion..

I didn't realize it was an established belief of her religion that a piece of paper from the 6th to 9th centuries AD can't include the phrase, "Jesus said to them, my wife."

[Uncle Sparky]

What was the rest of the text?
After a lifetime of studying the various prophets from the Jewish Catskills, allow me to speculate.


We always hold hands. If I let go,"Jesus said to them, my wife." goes shopping.

"Jesus said to them, my wife "was at the beauty shop for two hours. That was only for the estimate. She got a mudpack and looked great for two days.. Then the mud fell off.

"Jesus said to them, my wife "and I went to a hotel where we got a waterbed. My wife called it the Dead Sea.

"Jesus said to them, my wife "asked me why Jewish divorces cost so much. I told her because they're worth it.

"Jesus said to them, my wife "loves Chinese food. I think that this is due to the fact that Won Ton spelled backward is Not Now.

I've been in love with the same woman for 20 years,"Jesus said to them, my wife." ever finds out who, she'll crucify me!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hmm, I wonder why a professor at a religious school might have a vested interest in not contradicting an established belief of his own religion..

This is kind of funny when referring to a professor from Harvard Divinity. It's almost like kentonio has no idea what he's talking about .

[Dinner]

Sounds like gnostic gospels which were written centuries after Jesus died. A lot of this sort of stuff popped up at the time though the Church worked hard to stamp it out as heretical.