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    Letter written to a theatre company, I'll post the name of the company and their response later:

    It's not unusual for [REDACTED] to receive complaint letters: when you are performing for 12,000-15,000 people per production, you undoubtably will not please everyone.Thoughts?
    Take a few minutes and read this customer's complaint and see what you think. WARNING: This might ruffle your feathers... in one direction or other! AND the discussion centers around an incident that can be considered a spoiler.


    Chris [Lino, Managing Director],

    I trusted you! I have been a season ticket holder for 10 years and in the past have appreciated the quality of the acting and set design. I love the theatre and have taken my children to the theatre in hopes that they too will love it and continue to support the ARTS.
    I am normally calm, mild-mannered, and don’t get upset, but last night, at the close of the first act of Deathtrap, I was infuriated with the explicit, homosexual display on stage because I had brought my teenage son to see the seemingly innocuous play. I based my decision to take my teenage son upon the content advisory you provided. In the past, I have appreciated the content advisories, and I have relied upon them to make attendance decisions. I realize that, unfortunately, you feel you must appeal to an insignificant minority of patrons by offering “edgy” material. I regret that you feel that way. I have wasted many tickets the last two years by choosing NOT to attend plays that were offensive and vulgar.
    Because I relied on the content advisory, I am infuriated this evening. I felt compelled to walk out immediately, but had been taught etiquette as a child (my seat is [REDACTED]). It took all of my self control as I fumed in my seat for the long minute before intermission. Why was brazen homosexual content not included in the advisory?
    As I left at intermission, I talked to your employees in the ticket booth asking for upper management, but you were not available. When I inquired as to why that content was left out of the advisory I was told that it would “ruin the plot.” Ruin the plot?! You ruined my evening, ruined my trust in you, and you ruined the trust my son has in me to find worthwhile entertainment for him. I feel sick about tonight.
    I am appalled that you could not have simply stated: homosexual content. I have NEVER been so disgusted and infuriated! I was livid. I know your ticket sales clerk and manager are not responsible, and they handled the situation well. I had read and reread the content advisory to make sure it would be suitable to have my teenage son attend. I anticipated that he would appreciate the suspense, intrigue, plot twists, and mystery. The decision on the theatre’s part not to divulge repulsive content was irresponsible and negligent! You have that responsibility to your patrons.
    Please refund my money for this last evening’s performance as well as Sweet Charity as we will not be using our tickets. Thank you in advance. My real desire is that you could erase the images in my son’s mind and in mine.
    Please send my refund to:
    [REDACTED]

    I hope my feedback will prompt you to include ALL potentially offensive content in the advisory in the future!


    ACK!


    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

  • #2
    Too boring did not read.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • #3
      Already know your myopic world view, so for you to post is pointless anyway.

      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #4
        I don't understand the shock, doesn't everybody know that everyone in theater is gay and recruiting?
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • #5
          Proud subscriber to the Unicorn Theatre in KCMO, btw.
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #6
            Well it is like food labelling, the companies do not want to put it up and the consumers would like to have more information.

            Even though this is nothing outrageous, the customer seems to have asked for a sensible remedy - ie to get to know potentially offensive content beforehand to help him make a decision whether to come or not, on a topic which is still an issue of a part of the population, so looks like fair demand.

            ..... I guess until you post the response .
            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
              Already know your myopic world view, so for you to post is pointless anyway.

              ACK!
              Posts from anyone here are mostly pointless.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #8
                My real desire is that you could erase the images in my son’s mind. He hasn't stopped touching himself, and has started posting on a Homosexual Webpage - Apolyton OT.
                Please send my refund to:
                Corrected.
                There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                • #9
                  AC2- the most active SMAC(X) community on the web.
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                  No pasarán

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                  • #10
                    Maybe he should have watched the movie first:

                    LA Times

                    In the case of “Deathtrap,” the relationship between the two male protagonists has often been construed as homosexual. The 1982 film adaptation, directed by Sidney Lumet, features a romantic kiss between Caine and Reeve.
                    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                      Well it is like food labelling, the companies do not want to put it up and the consumers would like to have more information.

                      Even though this is nothing outrageous, the customer seems to have asked for a sensible remedy - ie to get to know potentially offensive content beforehand to help him make a decision whether to come or not, on a topic which is still an issue of a part of the population, so looks like fair demand.

                      ..... I guess until you post the response .
                      Ask and you shall receive:

                      RESPONSE: Dear [REDACTED]—
                      I received your e-mail, and am sorry that you were offended by the kissing scene.
                      We did not include the scene in the content advisory for two reasons:

                      1. It is indeed a major plot revelation in a murder mystery that relies entirely on plot twists for suspense, revealing the motive for the murder that has just occurred; to include it would have revealed a plot point that would have spoiled the show for patrons.
                      2. I did not think it rose to the level of requiring an advisory. You describe the content as “edgy,” and there are indeed times we do produce edgier material (this year’s Other Desert Cities or last season’s Clybourne Park come to mind, for which I believe we go to great pains to provide content advisories), but in this day and age I hardly think Deathtrap, a forty year old play, or a brief kiss by two men (there is no other sexual activity of any kind in the play) qualifies as edgy.
                      I have to ask, and I do so in all sincerity: In putting on Deathtrap, we are “play acting,” and in this particular play we show two characters carrying out a cold-blooded murder, and then we show them kissing as the motivation for the murder. You object to the kissing, but not to the fact that they’re murderers? You are comfortable with your son witnessing an enacted murder, but not a same sex kiss? In both cases, it’s just make-believe, but how is a play that depicts murder, whether it’s a contemporary murder-mystery like Deathtrap or an immortal tragedy like Macbeth, morally acceptable while the depiction of a fairly innocuous, albeit same-sex kiss, is totally unacceptable? The script doesn’t ask you to condone either the murder or the kiss; despite what you imply, we’re not promoting a homosexual agenda in producing Deathtrap; if anything, since the two characters who kiss are the villains of the piece, the kiss becomes part of their villainy, and both characters get their comeuppance in the second act.
                      Based on your letter, I anticipate that I might receive several more on this subject. (I half expect to get other letters of complaint from other patrons who accuse the play of “gay bashing” by revealing the character’s murderous impulses to be a function of their homosexuality—I’ve learned in twenty-three years that there’s nothing we can do that won’t offend somebody). Even if that happens—even if I get twenty letters-- the vast majority of our patrons will enjoy the show and regard the kissing “reveal” as a shocking but satisfying plot twist. In that circumstance—if the majority of our patrons don’t feel “betrayed” by our not mentioning the kiss—I would not tell you you’re wrong to be offended, but I would ask you to consider who we’re writing the advisories for: the 80-90% of our patrons who aren’t offended by the element in question, or the 10-20% who are?
                      In any event, I don’t expect to persuade you to my point of view, even if I don’t understand yours. Clearly, for you, the depiction of a same sex kiss is offensive—you use the word “repulsive”-- and you are right that we did not warn you that that would be in the play.
                      On that basis, I will be glad to refund you the price of your tickets to Deathtrap and will instruct my Patron Services Manager to process a refund.
                      I will not refund your tickets for Sweet Charity. You are free to use them yourself, give them away, or return them to the theatre for a tax deductible donation.
                      It sounds as if you have been unhappy with many of our productions, since you write that you’ve wasted many tickets over the past few seasons by not attending plays that you describe as offensive and vulgar, and it sounds as though you wish to discontinue your association with the theatre.
                      On your instructions, I will advise our marketing and box office staffs to place a “Do Not Contact” note on your records, and will release your season tickets for sale for next season. I always hate to lose a patron, but it is, I’ve found, better to lose a patron than risk betraying her trust and offending her repeatedly, something we have apparently done in your case.
                      Sincerely,
                      Chris Lino


                      ACK!
                      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Felch View Post
                        Maybe he should have watched the movie first:

                        LA Times

                        In the case of “Deathtrap,” the relationship between the two male protagonists has often been construed as homosexual. The 1982 film adaptation, directed by Sidney Lumet, features a romantic kiss between Caine and Reeve.
                        That was my main point, it was edgy in 1982 not in 2014.

                        However, seeing Superman kiss another man was shocking to a 14 year old, in 1982.

                        ACK!
                        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                        • #13
                          Oh and it was The Pioneer Theatre Company in Utah.

                          ACK!
                          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                          • #14
                            Superman kissed Alfred. It was like a weird DCU slash fanfic.
                            John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Felch View Post
                              Superman kissed Alfred. It was like a weird DCU slash fanfic.
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