Rape victim ordered to pay child support

[rah]

15 is old enough to know what a condom is.

I was 15 in 1969. While I knew what one was, using one wasn't considered as much as it is now. Free love and all that crap. Times were different with far less dangerous transmitted diseases.

[Sava]

15 is old enough to know what a condom is.

well... you are assuming the kids aren't receiving useless "abstinence only" education.

I didn't have any hot teachers when I was in high school.

Most of the ones I had were when I was in junior high... and damned if I didn't fantasize about them

At the time, I would have love to have been "abused" by one of them.

But my personal fantasies aside, I wouldn't want to diminish the notion that any adult sexual interaction with a minor is wrong. It's wrong. Don't do it. That being said, it's not the same as pedophilia. And unfortunately, our criminal justice system lumps child raping priests in with 19 year olds who have relationships with 17 year olds.

[Ming]

There's no evidence that it's a lie. Also, it doesn't matter if it is.

You have no evidence that it's true... and multiple sources that have done ACTUAL RESEARCH showing it's MADE UP.
So yes, it matters if it's a LIE. And gee... that makes you a liar.

Now those are actual facts. Not some made up story you cut and pasted.

[100% Wolf]

That was kind of my thinking too. But I would consider that up for debate. Granted he was only 15 at the time but to me, even at that age you kind of had to know that it wasn't right to be screwing your 34 year old baby sitter. But then, when I was 15, I probably would have gone along for the ride.

15 is old enough to know what a condom is.

[loinburger]

There's no evidence that it's a lie.

http://www.inquisitr.com/915699/was-an-underage-male-rape-victim-ordered-to-pay-child-support-to-his-rapist/

A story making the rounds about an underage male rape victim forced to pay child support to his alleged rapist — to the tune of more than $20,000 in arrears and nearly $500 a month — has outraged advocates of men’s rights. But did the situation described really occur?

The original posts about the male rape victim, a teen at the time, sexually assaulted by his babysitter and then forced to pay thousands of dollars in child support all goes back to a single source. While the tale is widely quoted on the web, all roads for the story alleging a Nebraska woman named Linda Kazinsky was granted child support after the statutory rape of a young man named Jeremy Steen lead back to the single, shaky source.

According to the widely quoted child support rape story involving Steen and Kazinsky, the latter repeatedly abused the former and became pregnant as a result of the statutory rape. The news story claims:

“In 2008, Steen was seduced and raped repeatedly by his 34-year-old baby sitter Linda Kazinsky. Sources testified that the sexual abuse took place weekly for nearly 3 years. After police were alerted, Ms. Kazinsky was arrested and charged with statutory rape and false imprisonment.”

Adding that the alleged rapist collecting child support had been working as a caregiver for Jeremy Steen’s family for three years, the post goes on:

“After Kazinsky’s release from Nebraska’s state prison system in 2012 she was able to regain custody of her child. The child had been a ward of the state for the first 13 months until Debra Kazinsky, Linda’s sister, was able to gain custody. After being reunited with her child, Kazinsky promptly filed for Aid and Government assistance which in turn landed Jeremy with a subpena for child support… Jeremy had his day in court and was ordered to pay $475 a month in child support to Linda Kazinsky as well as a whopping $23,000 in back Child Support payments.”

The post concludes that “men are victimized as much as women” in issues of rape and child support, and understandably the shocking tale has been spread far and wide on the web.

The catch? There’s no evidence that this occurred even in the barest way, and none that either party exists — much less that the state ordered a rape victim to pay his alleged attacker child support.

The Tumblr Post Busters investigated the claims and the viral story, eventually learning that a situation that only remotely resembles the above story had indeed occurred. That is to say that an underage male was ordered to pay child support to a far older women when she became pregnant by him, but none of the elements of the story otherwise apply.

That case happened in California, not Nebraska, and the parties involved were not named Linda Kazinsky and Jeremy Steen. Court records for that case name the 34-year-old woman charged with statutory rape as Ricci Jones, and the minor male simply as “Nathaniel J.” Moreover, the issue of consent only came into play when the issue of support did, which is not to say that such a circumstance excuses statutory rape.

Post Busters further adds:

“Alright, did some research on this. I’d like to preface that I am completely aware that these things do happen, but this case does not appear to have occurred… A search for ‘Lincoln, Nebraska’ AND ‘Kazinsky’ in Google provides nothing. Linda Kazinsky and Jeremy Steen do not appear to have a presence on the internet other than some people who appear to share Steen’s name.”

It’s quite likely that if the child support rape case involving Linda Kazinsky and Jeremy Steen were in any way true, some trace of the case would be more verifiably available through web searches — and in the absence of data, the likeliest victims of this story are the unfortunate people who probably share names with the made-up parties mentioned. We can only hope no one shares those names in Lincoln, Nebraska.

Also, it doesn't matter if it is.

[rah]

He was involved with a criminal sexual act. That makes him a sex offender too.

That was kind of my thinking too. But I would consider that up for debate. Granted he was only 15 at the time but to me, even at that age you kind of had to know that it wasn't right to be screwing your 34 year old baby sitter. But then, when I was 15, I probably would have gone along for the ride.

[Kidlicious]

[QUOTE=Ming;6295571]Well... the story isn't true, is it?
I'll let the other posters come to their own conclusions when you post made up crap

There's no evidence that it's a lie. Also, it doesn't matter if it is.

Please point out where I said that... GOT IT you LIAR!

So it's wrong?

[Sava]

WTF?! A 19 yr old man is a worse choice than a sex offender?

He was involved with a criminal sexual act. That makes him a sex offender too.

[Sava]

You partial quoter, you.

Do you a have quota for 'em ?

I need to entertain myself somehow!! Nobody else will do it.

You understand I'm Guantanamo bound now, don't you ?


Say you'll visit.

Nah. But I will express indignity at your unjust confinement... unless MrFun makes a thread. Then I'll just not care.

[Kidlicious]

Somehow I don't think giving the child to a 19 year old man would be in the best interest of the child. Not that giving it to the mother is ideal, but is probably better than foster care.

WTF?! A 19 yr old man is a worse choice than a sex offender?

[Ming]

You admit it happened once but don't think it can happen again? I think you just want to call me a liar.

Well... the story isn't true, is it?
I'll let the other posters come to their own conclusions when you post made up crap

So you don't think it's wrong for a 34 year old to have sex with a 15 year old. Got it.

Please point out where I said that... GOT IT you LIAR!

[molly bloom]

I figured as much.

You partial quoter, you.

Do you a have quota for 'em ?


You understand I'm Guantanamo bound now, don't you ?


Say you'll visit.

[Sava]

I'm secretly an Islamist

I figured as much.

[molly bloom]

Second, she probabl not even registered as a sex offender.

If she doesn't exist, that would make some sense. Saves on police paperwork.

[molly bloom]

....at least BK has a sense of humor. And he's not a one-trick pony.

Oh he is where I'm concerned- Sister Bendy has this truly bizarre notion that I'm secretly an Islamist or possible future Muslim convert. If in a discussion I list a few areas where other religions are favoured or disfavoured and am not scrupulous in including some mention of Islam, then according to him this is proof positive of my yearning to kneel and bow towards Mecca. He's still havig difficulties in decipering that enigmatic term, 'atheist'.

Oh, and then there's the 'history degree' defence- you can't criticise his knowledge (more often his lack of same) of historical events or teaching if you have't, like him, been privileged to acquire a history degree.

On the basis of the historial 'learning' he's displayed on 'Poly, I can only conclude it must have been gained through some sort of barter deal, maybe several thousand coupons clipped out of newspapers or he had compromising photographs of one of the examiners and a children's pet.