Woman Who Can't Afford Her Own Birth Control Scrapes Up Money For Congressional Run

[Guynemer]

What is the correct way to get a nurse's phone number? This is important

(only half joking)

Sorry man, nurses aren't gonna give a patient their phone number.

But I'm happy to see you've got your priorities in order.

[pchang]

I'm talking about the system.

If you have a preventative treatment that costs less than treating the condition over the population, but is resisted by some deliverers for some ideological reason, it is open season for regulation to mandate the provision of that care.

I don't give a **** how it is paid for especially since it more than pays for itself! I give a **** for ethics.

And regulations is "standard of care".

[pchang]

What is the correct way to get a nurse's phone number? This is important

(only half joking)

Did they run a catheter? Use your imagination.

[notyoueither]

currently feels like I've done two million too many situps

also hc I knew SB was joking, and I laughed (**** you sb that hurt)

gonna see how long I can go without narcotics. so long as i sit still it's manageable, but if I move my abdomen it hurts like a ***** and a half

also kh you are wrong opiates are terrible they make me feel like **** they are not a party. And moreover they are really ****ing scary, I don't want to be a junkie.

Did you ask for rough stitching for the scar?

[notyoueither]

And regulations is "standard of care".

OK.

[molly bloom]

It's a requirement for military personnel who are deployable overseas, as well as recommended for government personnel traveling to certain areas. Your googlefu is weak.

I'm not using Google. I've read several essays about the elimination of smallpox, and seen photographic evidence of the effects of confluent smallpox on the human body- similar to ground up meat in appearance.

I'm interested in the eradication of diseases, but am wondering why the American government would choose to waste its money vaccinating its personnel who serve overseas against a disease that has been eradicated in the human population worldwide, and to date appears not to exist in any known zoonotic reservoirs.

On the other hand, you can serve your country without leaving the continental United States and contract bubonic plague and/or hanta virus.

It just reminds me of the sad expensive pointless uproar in the mid-70s over Swine Flu in the U.S. .

IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Release No: 634-02
December 13, 2002


DOD DETAILS MILITARY SMALLPOX VACCINATION PROGRAM

The Department of Defense today highlighted its plan to prepare for and respond to possible smallpox attacks against servicemembers. The Smallpox Vaccination Program is consistent with FDA guidelines and the best practice of medicine. This program supports the national smallpox preparedness plans announced by the President, but is tailored to the unique requirements of the Armed Forces. Like civilian communities, DoD will ensure preparedness by immunizing personnel based on their occupational responsibilities. These include smallpox response teams and hospital and clinic workers. DoD will proceed to vaccinate other designated forces having critical mission capabilities. DoD will use existing FDA-licensed smallpox vaccine. Like other vaccinations this will be mandated for designated personnel unless they are medically exempted.

"The Department of Defense is establishing a smallpox vaccination program to protect the health and safety of military personnel. Smallpox is a serious infectious disease. We cannot quantify the threat of it being used as a bioweapon; we know the consequences of its use could be great," said William Winkenwerder, assistant secretary of defense for health affairs. "Vaccinating servicemembers before an attack is the best way to ensure that our troops are protected and that they can continue their missions if a smallpox outbreak occurs."

Smallpox is caused by a virus called variola, which spreads from person to person through prolonged close contact. Smallpox can cause a severe rash covering the whole body that can leave permanent scars, high fever, severe headache or backache. Smallpox kills about three out of 10 people infected.



In the United States, routine vaccination against smallpox ended around 1972. In May 1980, the World Health Organization declared the global eradication of smallpox as a naturally occurring disease and recommended that all countries cease vaccination. Military smallpox vaccination programs continued longer. In 1984, routine military vaccinations were limited to recruits entering basic training. This practice was discontinued in 1990. In the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and the subsequent anthrax letter attacks, the Department of Defense reassessed the threat of a smallpox attack. The resumption of a smallpox vaccination program is intended to ensure that the military can achieve its missions in case smallpox is used as a bioweapon.

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=3578

So that's your Defense department's press release. Interesting date on it...

you are incorrect as millions of people in my country are and continue to be vaccinated.

So I'll ask again- how many 'millions' of people are or have been vaccinated in your country against a disease which so far has not been used (in the twelve years since that original press release) ONCE as a bio-weapon ?

I don't know, since I have only your vague 'millions'.

Oh, and if you don't want me to misinterpret what you write, then write more clearly.

Do you take the small pox vaccibne monthy?

After all, how else am I meant to interpret that ? I'm not a long distance mind reader.

[molly bloom]

Maybe if his googlefu were better his posts would occasionally be relevant and/or interesting.

Perhaps if you knew how to use Google you wouldn't routinely make so many crass errors when it comes to 20th Century history.

On the other hand, you might be some closet masochist who enjoys people thinking he's a spoilt, undereducated, overstimulated tw@t.

Who knows ?

[Felch]

Felch, did you forget to take your weed today?

I misplaced my weed. And now mother****er won't pick up his phone, so I can't get it back. But other dude should be able to hook me up in a couple hours.

****ing Christ, sorry, I'm losing my temper because that smarmy ****ing ***** Guy wants to play dumb like he doesn't know what routine means or how insurance works.

You know, it's one thing to have a disagreement. It's another thing entirely to ask a jillion nit picky little ****ing questions and to pretend like birth control weren't perfectly routine. But her goes.

Please delineate which of these treatments should be covered and should not be covered, so I can adjust my practice accordingly:

Childhood vaccines, including (but not limited to): DTaP, IPV, HiB, HepB, HepA, Rotavirus, Pneumococcus, MMR, Varicella, Influenza

It's routine, so it shouldn't be mandatory. If insurance companies feel that it is better for them to pay for it in the long run, they are free to do so. Otherwise people should figure the cost of vaccines into their budgets just as they do everything else. It's not like they're a surprise, right? Or should health insurance pay for kids to play soccer (it is exercise!)?

Asthma treatment, including (but not limited to): bronchodialators, inhaled corticosteroids, equipment to adequately deliver said medications

If you want to pay for coverage that includes asthma medicines, that's fine with me. I'd prefer not to. It's the basic difference between high and low deductible plans.

Allergy treatment, including (but not limited to): over-the-counter antihistamines, both short and long-acting, nasal corticosteroids

No, those are clearly routine, as I said earlier "Buying allergy medicine is a routine expense." Of course, if you'd actually read what I'd written you couldn't have pretended to be confused by simple words like "routine." Anybody who wants their five dollar's worth of Benadryl to cost twice as much after the insurance company middle men jack up the prices is a damn fool.

leukotriene inhibitors

Fit in with asthma, right? So coverage should be optional for people who are willing to pay more for insurance.

Various treatments for various infectious diseases, such as several different classes of oral and topical antibiotics

Treatment of infectious diseases are obviously not routine. But I suppose that's only obvious to somebody with a dictionary or a basic understanding of the English language.

Whether they are covered by insurance or not has to do with your deductible. If you've got a high deductible plan like I do, you might just settle in and tough out the petty stuff. Other people might pay more for insurance to cover every little thing. That's the free market it action though, and government should stay the hell out.

Let's start with that, and can go on from there.

Eat a dick. You want to hide behind this chaff, and cow people into letting you run roughshod over discussions of medical politics because you have degree in medicine. **** you. I'm not impressed. You don't even know what "routine" means, or how insurance is supposed to work. You're so caught up in the myth of your own awesomeness, that you aren't willing to see common sense when it's shoved in your dumbass face.

[Hauldren Collider]

I think that's the angriest I've ever seen Felch.

[Felch]

It's been over 24 hours. I'm in no mood for "I don't understand basic words."

[Guynemer]

It is clearly not worthwhile having this discussion with you.

[Ban Kenobi]

Routine
noun
1. a customary or regular course of procedure.
2. commonplace tasks, chores, or duties as must be done regularly or at specified intervals; typical or everyday activity: the routine of an office.
3. regular, unvarying, habitual, unimaginative, or rote procedure.
4. an unvarying and constantly repeated formula, as of speech or action; convenient or predictable response: Don't give me that brotherly-love routine!
5. Computers.
a. a complete set of coded instructions directing a computer to perform a series of operations.
b. a series of operations performed by the computer.
adjective
6. an individual act, performance, or part of a performance, as a song or dance, given regularly by an entertainer: a comic routine; a dance routine.
7. of the nature of, proceeding by, or adhering to routine: routine duties.
8. dull or uninteresting; commonplace.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/routine

Felch, you're the one who doesn't understand basic words.

[DinoDoc]

You were asking some stupid questions in that post, Guy.

[Guynemer]

That's because I find the very idea of not covering childhood vaccines, for instance, so far beyond stupid that it defies belief.

[Felch]

Should insurance companies be allowed to drop coverage for people who refuse vaccines?

I think so.