Rich kid kills 4 pedestrians while driving drunk, gets probation.

[Sava]

In this case, he would've deserved it.

oh, so mister "all government is statism/socialism/fascism and thus, bad" thinks government should be able to take your life

hypocrisy

[Boris Godunov]

The same judge put a 14-year-old black kid in jail for 10 years after he punched someone (with no intent to kill) and the victim died after hitting his head on the ground.

[rah]

Hmm, was the kid black?

[Ban Kenobi]

This is what happens when we absolve criminals of individual responsibility and instead blame social externalities such as socio-economic status, culture, the media, and upbringing while forgoing the usual double standard that permits these considerations when the offender is poor or in some other way marginalized but not when the offender is from a background of privilege.

This is the logical end-result of what the liberal criminal justice system desires.

No, this is just the rich getting treated better than everyone else as usual.

Funny how often young black kids seem to get 'charged as adults' (one of the most repulsive and revolting American ideas ever), yet young rich white kids seem to get free passes.

Really? Treating a 16-year-old like an adult is up there with owning slaves and massacring natives?

[kentonio]

Really? Treating a 16-year-old like an adult is up there with owning slaves and massacring natives?

16? How about incarcerating a 13 year old to spend the rest of their life in prison? Yeah, I'd say that's stepping into some pretty ****ing horrible moral territory.

Either you decide that kids are fully responsible for their actions or you don't. If you do, then it is utterly vile to then turn around and conveniently sweep that aside, because the crime was horrid and people want their revenge fix.

[Ban Kenobi]

16? How about incarcerating a 13 year old to spend the rest of their life in prison? Yeah, I'd say that's stepping into some pretty ****ing horrible moral territory.

Either you decide that kids are fully responsible for their actions or you don't. If you do, then it is utterly vile to then turn around and conveniently sweep that aside, because the crime was horrid and people want their revenge fix.

That's illogical. People don't suddenly become responsible on a certain birthday so why should the law operate based on the fiction that they do?

[Patroklos]

Find an example of a black 16 year old who kills someone via DUI that matches your claim and get back to us.

[Boris Godunov]

That's illogical. People don't suddenly become responsible on a certain birthday so why should the law operate based on the fiction that they do?

The law does so all the time. Can't drink until 21, can't vote until 18, can't drive until 16...

[Lorizael]

How about incarcerating a 13 year old to spend the rest of their life in prison?

What do you feel is the correct solution to a situation such as this.

[kentonio]

What do you feel is the correct solution to a situation such as this.

We had a very similar case (James Bulger) years back. Despite the normal shouts from the public for them to be dragged through the streets and hung or locked up for life, they were detained at a youth facility and underwent constant psychological evaluation. They were released after about 8-10 years on lifelong license with new identities. It's not something that feels satisfying for anyone (especially as one of them allegedly re-offended years later), but I don't see what else you can really do when it's kids involved.

[MikeH]

I think that's a very intelligent and well thought out sentence from the judge, combining punishment with an attempt to help the kid recover and get his life back.

Not sure how locking the kid up for years would have helped anyone, it wouldn't have made the families of the victims any better no matter what they might think.

The problem is that the expensive rehab isn't an option for every defendant.

[Sava]

The same judge put a 14-year-old black kid in jail for 10 years after he punched someone (with no intent to kill) and the victim died after hitting his head on the ground.

Not surprising.

Texas is a shit stain full of racists.

[Dinner]

That's the power of a really expensive lawyer who can drag things out and challenge everything. The prosecution and the courts tend to have extremely heavy case loads and limited budgets so they have to pick their battles so if you're a borderline case but you have the cash to drive up the expenses the court/prosecution might just decide it has bigger fish to fry.

[Dinner]

BTW most felony DUI offenders don't get time even when people are killed.

[SlowwHand]

Really. I know a guy that killed one pedestrian and hurt another. He's doing about 20 years.