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    I think this is shocking.

    Associated Press

    KNIGHTSTOWN, Ind. (AP) -- Knightstown police Chief Danny Baker has used pig roasts and golf tournaments to augment his department's shrinking budget, but badly in need of $9,000 for a new squad car, he's reprising his most shocking fundraising approach to date: getting shot by a stun gun.
    The jocular 63-year-old chief and another Knightstown official were planning to have a detective shoot them with a Taser at a free event Wednesday night in the middle school gym in their small eastern Indiana town. Spectators - who Baker hopes feel compelled to donate - will get a firsthand look at how 50,000 volts of low-amp electricity affects the human body.
    "It's a shame we have to go to the extent of having fundraisers and getting electrified and so forth, but with small-town budgets you have to do something to get by," said Baker, a lifelong Knightstown resident who has been in law enforcement for 35 years.
    Many rural communities like Knightstown, a mile-square town of 2,100 about 25 miles east of Indianapolis, are having to become inventive to fund needed services, said Brian Depew, executive director of the Center for Rural Affairs, an advocacy group based in Lyons, Neb.
    Depew said federal farm bill funding for rural development has fallen by a third since 2003, leaving less money for police cars and other necessities in an era of shrinking rural populations and tax bases.
    Some communities have taken to putting ads on cruisers, while others, like Knightstown, are relying on donations for help.
    While Baker concedes that his fundraising gambit is extreme, he believes it will also educate the crowd, which will also get to see a police dog demonstration.
    Since he became police chief in 2007, Baker has staged a series of fundraisers, including an annual golf outing and hog roast that raises about $5,000 a year and has paid for new digital cameras for the town's cruisers, blood-testing kits and other items.
    Wednesday's event would not be a first for Baker, who has four children and 16 grandchildren. He was shot with a stun gun about five years ago to raise $500 for new equipment. Baker says getting stunned feels like being punched about 20 times a second in the back of the head for five seconds. It immobilizes the target and leaves him or her prone and sore, he said.
    Baker will be steadied by two of his officers while he's stunned. Emergency medical technicians will be on hand, their ambulance parked outside Knightstown Intermediate School as a precaution.
    Baker reprised the Taser event after a local businessman who is contributing to the cause suggested it. He said Wednesday's demonstration will re-certify him through next year in Taser use in accordance with Indiana Law Enforcement Academy requirements. Officers can choose whether or not to be stunned as part of that re-certification, he said.
    Although some might question the message the stunt might send - not to mention its wisdom - Baker said that if anything, it will benefit those who attend, including children.
    "We're not using it to play with, we're using it as a training tool," he said. "It's going to be quite visible - the pain in my body - and if there are kids there, they're going to see this and their parents can sit down and say, `See, if you mess up and don't do what the police tell you to do, that's going to be you.'"
    Wednesday's event has made the well-liked chief the talk of Knightstown, a farming town best-known as the home of the Hoosier Gym, a rustic, 1920s-era structure featured as the home team's gym in the 1986 basketball film "Hoosiers." And the dollars have flowed in, giving the department most of the money it needs for the cruiser.
    Baker's 2006 Ford Crown Victoria has about 67,000 miles on it, and on Monday it was the only one of the department's four squad cars in service. The others - two of which are a decade old and have more than 150,000 miles on them - had transmission, engine and electrical problems.
    Bart Whitesitt, the town's court-treasurer, said Knightstown's 2014 budget is an estimated $968,000. Money from the town's rainy-day fund and state riverboat casino revenue was enough to pay a year's lease on a new Ford Police Interceptor SUV that should arrive early next year, but not another $9,000 available for a second one.
    "What we're experiencing here, it's just a microcosm of what's happening around the country," said Whitesitt, who volunteered to be shocked along with Baker.
    Jay Stearns, the owner of the town's main hangout, the Corner Bakery, gleefully predicted that a big crowd would show up.
    "Everybody's going to be there - not just because it's a fundraiser but because we're all going to enjoy watching him drop to the floor like a 100-pound bag of potatoes," Stearns said, spurring laughter among his customers.
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    They could try arresting a boatload of people on trumped up meth charges. Then, they could petition the feds for anti-drug money.
    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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    • #3
      I haven't seen their list of planned activities, but if this effort falls short they may consider other options.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by pchang View Post
        They could try arresting a boatload of people on trumped up meth charges. Then, they could petition the feds for anti-drug money.
        Or they could do what dozens of small towns do; lower the speed limit on the highway next to the town to some absurdly low level then give massive tickets to everyone who doesn't notice. There was a town some where in the mid-west who had authority over exactly 0.25 miles of a highway and the speed limit before and after the town was 55mph but for no good reason the speed limit for that 0.25 miles was lowered to just 25mph. The town had a few tens of thousands of people but they had like 20 cops 18 of which were assigned to write tickets on that tiny stretch of highway. It was basically highway robbery under the color of authority.
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        • #5
          That happens everywhere.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Lookup forfeiture scams in Tenaha TX. Small town on route 59.
            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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            • #7
              Speed traps in Melissa, Texas. Or Wilmer, Texas. Or ad nauseam. Those are two in the Dallas area. It's not like Texas has cornered the market on it, though.
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              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                Plenty of speed traps in Ohio. Those ones in East TX seem especially bad though.
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                • #9
                  While I like the idea of getting money for his department for doing this, it's really kinda dumb to be the one giving the money because the chief, or any of the other officers doing it, are probably required to get tazed in order to carry one.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                    Or they could do what dozens of small towns do; lower the speed limit on the highway next to the town to some absurdly low level then give massive tickets to everyone who doesn't notice. There was a town some where in the mid-west who had authority over exactly 0.25 miles of a highway and the speed limit before and after the town was 55mph but for no good reason the speed limit for that 0.25 miles was lowered to just 25mph. The town had a few tens of thousands of people but they had like 20 cops 18 of which were assigned to write tickets on that tiny stretch of highway. It was basically highway robbery under the color of authority.
                    Over here municipality and provincial authorities don't have legislation on federal routes, unless they are expressly allowed by the federal government (most provincial police forces have such permissions). This does happen, and they do manage to extort money off some people (those who see the 'pay or face charges' letter and freak out), but it's illegal and the authority that manages national roads even has a model letter on their website to send them.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                      I haven't seen their list of planned activities, but if this effort falls short they may consider other options.
                      Such as thinking ?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pchang View Post
                        Lookup forfeiture scams in Tenaha TX. Small town on route 59.
                        Wow. Some of those are shocking.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Donegeal View Post
                          While I like the idea of getting money for his department for doing this, it's really kinda dumb to be the one giving the money because the chief, or any of the other officers doing it, are probably required to get tazed in order to carry one.
                          I doubt that very seriously. So to carry a sidearm they have to be shot with one? A shotgun in the squad car, you had to be shot with one?
                          Your department must constantly be hiring.
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                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #14
                            I've seen some news item where it's part of police training for the weapon to be tazed themselves.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                              I doubt that very seriously. So to carry a sidearm they have to be shot with one? A shotgun in the squad car, you had to be shot with one?
                              Your department must constantly be hiring.
                              I thought the idea was that it encourages police to think about how ****ing painful it is so that they don't start using it at the drop of a hat? You can't compare non-lethal (usually) methods to lethal ones.

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