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The story of Jesus was made up by the Roman Empire
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the carpenter was executed by being nailed to a piece of wood?
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Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the carpenter was executed by being nailed to a piece of wood?
No, that's the idea. Had he been a mason, he would've been stoned to death in the Bible and everyone would be wearing pieces of rock. Oh, and hitting themselves with a fist on their foreheads instead of making the sign of the cross.
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Among the **** we all are poets
Among the poets we are ****.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
No such people. The Greeks made them up because they were tired of running the Mediterranean directly. They're lazy that way. Similarly, there is no such person as "Robert Plomp," and you were a fool to ever believe there was.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
What archaeological evidence? Have archaeologists stumbled upon some of his carpentry or something?
It was in a used ark lot, along with a cross, a big ship that the Israelites had previously shown no ability to build, several heads of John The Baptist, a manger, and a lump of frankincense.
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
I'm trying to picture how a man who wanted to found a religion would benefit by being dependent on a fictional (and thus always absent) charismatic founder, instead of just running the thing himself, on his own authority. It'd be like Brigham Young inventing Joseph Smith and hoping nobody would call him out on the falsehood of his totally unnecessary narrative.
I'm trying to picture how a man who wanted to found a religion would benefit by being dependent on a fictional (and thus always absent) charismatic founder, instead of just running the thing himself, on his own authority. It'd be like Brigham Young inventing Joseph Smith and hoping nobody would call him out on the falsehood of his totally unnecessary narrative.
If you have a non-existent founder (or least a dead one) people can't suddenly tell them to their face- Hey you're wrong there! Or 'Weren't you Yeshua the cheesemaker from Apamea ?'
Much more convenient to have a dead martyr who hasn't left anything in his own writing but merely has his oral utterances reported and collated later.
Blessed are the cheesemakers. In the name of the Jarlsberg, the Roquefort and the holey Emmenthal.
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
Do you know of any instance of that ever happening? Mohammad did it himself, as did Smith, Russell, Koresh, Moon, Hubbard...it's just more impressive if you're the great prophet yourself, and not his messenger boy.
Also, in Jesus's case, what you describe apparently happened anyway, or was written into the made-up propaganda, whatever. See the Gospel of John: "Is this not Jesus of Nazareth, whose father and mother we know? How can he claim to have come down from heaven?"
Do you know of any instance of that ever happening? Mohammad did it himself, as did Smith, Russell, Koresh, Moon, Hubbard...it's just more impressive if you're the great prophet yourself, and not his messenger boy.
Zoroaster ? Mani ? Osiris, Odin, the Morrigan....
If you're the great prophet yourself, than as we can see from 18th & 19th & 20th Century attempts, your followers may lose faith when the apocalypse fails to happen or they discover you're sleeping with every female over 12, or they die drinking poisoned Kool Aid or havig castrated themselves.
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
Also, in Jesus's case, what you describe apparently happened anyway, or was written into the made-up propaganda, whatever. See the Gospel of John: "Is this not Jesus of Nazareth, whose father and mother we know? How can he claim to have come down from heaven?"
Points out that not all the gospels agree with each other, and the John is the notoriously anti-Jewish one, as an aside. Elok, I'm not being entirely serious, so please don't get hard-edged over your faith on my account.
It's more fun making Sister Bendy look an uneducated fool who should be banned from teaching history anywhere, even Texas.
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
I'm not upset, I'm pretty chill right now. But the narrative here doesn't make sense. Mani, Zoroaster, and various pagan priests all spoke for invisible deities who were active in human affairs only indirectly, or in the case of the pagans manifested themselves randomly in the sight of favored people. The whole Christian faith is built on a series of events that are supposed to have happened in public, at specific places and times. Roman Palestine wasn't like modern Europe or America, but there was enough traffic going on for people to say, "WTF? I lived in Capernaum for three years, and I never heard of this dude!" or "No, I do business in Jerusalem all the time, there's not a whisper of any Jeshua getting crucified on Passover for anything like that." It just creates a big liability, and I don't see the advantage over doing what everyone else did throughout history and being the prophet of an invisible and intangible entity. It seems simpler to assume that there was an actual preacher named Jesus (very common name) whose deeds got inflated by rumor.
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