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  • #16
    I read one of the Jack Jr. books and it was utter garbage. Also, not written by him.

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    • #17
      They were worse than in his prime, but not bad. If I understand correctly, it was cowritten. I enjoyed them anyway. But nothing beats the old gems.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by rah View Post
        At least since most of his books are ghost written these days anyway, we'll still get more adventures of JR.
        I haven't read any of his stuff for a long time (I think the last thing I read with his name on it was Politika, which he didn't write) but I thought the character had been retired? Kind of like Dirk Pitt in Cussler's books, the universe went on but the character wasn't really involved any more...or is that not the case?
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        • #19
          No he was un-retired for his latest series about Jack Junior. He's actually president again.
          I'm sure he wrote quite a small percentage of it though.

          I thought that in his divorce settlement that his wife was awarded a percentage of the JR books so that's when he moved on to his other op series since he was bitter. There was a long gap before the Jack Junior books were done.
          But eventually money trumped revenge so viola JR was back.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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          • #20
            He hasn't written a book in years (decades even) and instead he does nothing but pay ghost writers to write books which they then slap his name on.

            Still sad to see him go though. I really liked reading Red Storm Rising when I was a kid; so much so I actually bought and played the C64 game with the same name.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
              They were worse than in his prime, but not bad. If I understand correctly, it was cowritten. I enjoyed them anyway. But nothing beats the old gems.
              My understanding is he'd come up with the general story background like "this one will be about Chinese hackers attacking America" or "China attacks India" and then would let the ghost writers do everything else. Basically he was doing nothing but living off of his name but it still sold so I guess it worked.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by rah View Post
                so viola JR was back.
                He became a musician?!

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                • #23
                  DP

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                    He became a musician?!
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rah View Post
                      No he was un-retired for his latest series about Jack Junior. He's actually president again.
                      I'm sure he wrote quite a small percentage of it though.

                      I thought that in his divorce settlement that his wife was awarded a percentage of the JR books so that's when he moved on to his other op series since he was bitter. There was a long gap before the Jack Junior books were done.
                      But eventually money trumped revenge so viola JR was back.
                      Sounds similar to George Lucas' divorce and Star Wars
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                      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                      • #26
                        I enjoy reading old Tom Clancy books largely for the opportunity to sojourn in an utterly foreign mentality: the world of the proud 'Murican, where men are stoic and conservative in a fair-minded way and there's only ever one legitimate way of looking at a situation. RIP.
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                        • #27


                          The old books were essentially US > USSR. So yes, there is only one legitimate way of looking at that situation.

                          He never acted like the Soviet people themselves were inhuman *******s, just that their country and government and ideology was shit, which it was.
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                          • #28
                            back at ya for that sentiment, bub.

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                            • #29
                              He was only 66
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                              • #30
                                I wasn't referring to the political situation, necessarily. All the "good" characters all have roughly the same ideology and perspective, even characters from radically different backgrounds. The kind of perspective that replies, to every question, "well, shucks, I don't know about that, but I reckon it's only fair and square to [etc]"
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