Anyone else (possibly) getting a mandatory vacation come Tuesday?

[kentonio]

There's nothing one sided about it. If you're as valuable as you say you are, you're too valuable for them to fire you without a decent business reason.

Leaving you completely at the whim of a manager who suddenly decides that he's restructuring or taking the company in a new direction, or a new manager who just doesn't like you for personal reasons, or who is too stupid to identify the valuable members of the workforce, or wants to surround him/herself with cronies for internal political reasons etc etc etc.

[kentonio]

If my employer wanted to lay me off, they'd have to pay me 20 months pay in severance.

Nice. Been there a long time?

[rah]

Leaving you completely at the whim of a manager who suddenly decides that he's restructuring or taking the company in a new direction, or a new manager who just doesn't like you for personal reasons, or who is too stupid to identify the valuable members of the workforce, or wants to surround him/herself with cronies for internal political reasons etc etc etc.

And the higher you get in an organization the more vulnerable you are to just politics. Been there, not fun. But I got a real nice severance package that time. (not 20 months though)

[DaShi]

Ugh, there's politics everywhere. I'm really trying not to destroy anymore careers. Really!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

...this is Republican doing? I suppose it might be, in the "see what you made me do" sense.

Dana Bash reporting Reid doesn't want to save children.

BASH: But if you can help one child who has cancer, why wouldn’t you do it?

REID: Why would we want to do that? I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is — to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you’re irresponsible and reckless –

BASH: I’m just asking a question.

Optics genius

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

No they really don't. Observe their unemployment rates. These things are directly related.

Unemployment rates of July 2013, according to Wiki.

United Kingdom 7.7%
United States 7.4%

I see what you mean.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Nice. Been there a long time?

20 years. It's 1 month per complete year service. I'm an expensive bugger to dispose of.

[Felch]

Leaving you completely at the whim of a manager who suddenly decides that he's restructuring or taking the company in a new direction, or a new manager who just doesn't like you for personal reasons, or who is too stupid to identify the valuable members of the workforce, or wants to surround him/herself with cronies for internal political reasons etc etc etc.

That's why you should always invite your boss out shooting, so he can see what kinds of sweet guns you'll be bringing to the office if he ever ****s you over.

[kentonio]

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

If the mere fact of employment contracts surprised regx, he'd have a stroke if he saw my pension arrangements.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

On the flip side its better and cheaper for the boss to have a "hunting accident" against you rather than firing you in EU-land.

[kentonio]

Why do you think we don't have guns?

[KrazyHorse]

I have no problem with people deciding to agree on employment contracts if that's what the two interested parties decide makes sense. However, as is demonstrated by the fact that most places with competitive labor markets do NOT end up with employment contracts, there must be a reason that these impose deadweight losses of some kind. In my opinion, this loss takes the form of information asymmetry between the worker and the employer (the employer know less about the quality of the worker than the worker does). In this case, employees who insist on employment contracts will be sub-par relative to observable quality, and employers offering such contracts will face a market for lemons. Requiring employment contracts therefore raises barriers to entry by new employees, increasing the gap between those in jobs (whose quality the employer has had more chance to observe) and those out of work. This can partly be mitigated by by schemes generally in place which allow workers to be fired during a provisional period.

If the dynamics were simply "employees wish to purchase insurance through employment contracts" then you would see a lot more of them in the us and other liberal labor markets.

[kentonio]

18 republicans now openly say they'd pass a clean bill. A clean bill would now definitely pass the house.

[rah]

In the US you're more likely to see a talent type contract instead of of employment contract. And these generally favor those talented.