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  • “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."
    Obama when he was a senator.

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    • He also said he would close Guantanamo. Unfortunately, the only alternative to Obama is a bunch of crazy people.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • This thread is a microcosm of what is wrong with the country. Page after page of "No, it's their fault!" "No, it isn't! It's their fault!"

          Hardly any debate at all on the issues is being discussed.

          It is sad that all you mindless sheep have degraded to this level.
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • WAKE UP, SHEEPLE
            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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            • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
              This thread is a microcosm of what is wrong with the country. Page after page of "No, it's their fault!" "No, it isn't! It's their fault!"

              Hardly any debate at all on the issues is being discussed.

              It is sad that all you mindless sheep have degraded to this level.
              No. What's wrong with this country is a small group of extremists destroying the economy.

              Most of us are powerless to stop it since we don't live in their districts and can't vote them out.

              Thus, the blame game.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                No. What's wrong with this country is a small group of extremists destroying the economy.

                Most of us are powerless to stop it since we don't live in their districts and can't vote them out.

                Thus, the blame game.
                Bleeeeet....Bleeeeet.

                Isn't it time for your shearing?
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                  Bleeeeet....Bleeeeet.

                  Isn't it time for your shearing?
                  Hey. I understand it's embarrassing. But people aren't going to stop getting on your case until you guys get your shit together and kick the crazies out.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • You miss the point Savasheep. I am being just as hard on those that blame Obama.

                    The point I am trying to make is simple. We, as a country (and as Apolyton forum members too for that matter) should be more focused on talking about how to solve the problems. Obamacare is here to stay it looks like...okay...how do we make it better? How do we address the concerns that so many have without undermining the good things so many want? The National debt continues to rise...how do we make a plan for the future so that we can get to a point that this does not put a strain on the economy? The Federal Reserve has over $3 trillion dollars worth of treasuries on its books now. How do we deal with that?

                    These are things that need to be discussed...not "Your party is full of crazies!" or "Obama is a crybaby". That is really ridiculous and you are only supplanted in the lead role in that by Oerdin and possibly MrFun.

                    Step up...be a leader. Talk about solutions. Leave the blame game for Chris Matthews and Sean Hannity.
                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • You guys call all the solutions "Islamofascistsocialismcommiepinkoislamgayislamgay".

                      Stop doing that.

                      You want a solution to health care? Single-payer... like the rest of the developed world.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • Originally posted by PLATO View Post

                        Step up...be a leader. Talk about solutions. Leave the blame game for Chris Matthews and Sean Hannity.
                        What about all those posts you made blaming Obama for the economy, Libya, Syria, and who knows what else?
                        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                        "Capitalism ho!"

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                        • Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                          What about all those posts you made blaming Obama for the economy, Libya, Syria, and who knows what else?
                          Those were all on policy choices...not intransigence. I am happy to debate policy. I actually learn a lot from you guys...and hope that the opposite is true as well.
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            You guys call all the solutions "Islamofascistsocialismcommiepinkoislamgayislamgay".

                            Stop doing that.

                            You want a solution to health care? Single-payer... like the rest of the developed world.
                            Bleeeet....Bleeeet. Single payer would be a game changer.
                            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                            • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                              You miss the point Savasheep. I am being just as hard on those that blame Obama.

                              The point I am trying to make is simple. We, as a country (and as Apolyton forum members too for that matter) should be more focused on talking about how to solve the problems. Obamacare is here to stay it looks like...okay...how do we make it better? How do we address the concerns that so many have without undermining the good things so many want? The National debt continues to rise...how do we make a plan for the future so that we can get to a point that this does not put a strain on the economy? The Federal Reserve has over $3 trillion dollars worth of treasuries on its books now. How do we deal with that?

                              These are things that need to be discussed...not "Your party is full of crazies!" or "Obama is a crybaby". That is really ridiculous and you are only supplanted in the lead role in that by Oerdin and possibly MrFun.

                              Step up...be a leader. Talk about solutions. Leave the blame game for Chris Matthews and Sean Hannity.
                              Here's a solution: STOP INVADING PEOPLE. Stop acting like it is still 19goddamned46. Cut defense by a gajillion dollars, bring all our overseas troops home and reopen closed bases here to stimulate local economies, and let our allies pull their own goddamned weight in maintaining their goddamned militaries on their own soil.

                              Goddamned military-industrial complex. It's been 60 goddamned years since Eisenhower warned the country, and everyone has their goddamned fingers in their ears.

                              Since none of that **** is ever going to change, we're pretty much ****ed. So let's argue over dumb **** like medical device taxes instead.
                              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                              • That would be an interesting debate. What would be the consequences of a greatly reduced U.S. military?
                                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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