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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sava View Post
    Classy to mock over 100,000 civilian deaths.

    And you wonder why people compare you to Stalin?
    I'm not mocking their deaths and Stalin actually killed people; he wasn't just indifferent to suffering. It's not like anything we can reasonably do will do much good anyway.

    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    I think he's mocking the notion that we have to do something when there's nothing we can do to make it better, only make it worse.
    More or less.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
      We've got the biggest hammer ever seen in human history; why just leave all these nails lying around?
      Because we keep hitting our thumb instead?
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • #18
        Arming the moderate groups makes sense. The only reason the 1-2 Islamic groups have gained traction is because the moderates couldn't get guns or ammo while the Islamists did. Building up the moderate majority is a great way to counter act that problem, under cut the influence of Islamic groups, and still bring down the war criminal in Damascus. Plus it is both cheaper and more effective than lobbying a few cruise missiles and going home.
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #19
          BTW linking to "The Washington Examiner" is no better than linking to Glenn Beck or Alex Jones's websites.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #20
            Oh god. I bet those Alex Jones people are having all sorts of conspiracy fun with the Navy Yard shooter.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              The Washington Examiner is perfectly fine, Oerdin.
              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
              ){ :|:& };:

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sava View Post
                Maybe I do.
                I totally believe you.
                Originally posted by Sava View Post
                I'm pro-"I hope the country falls into the Mediterranean"
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                  Because we keep hitting our thumb instead?
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    I totally believe you.
                    Obviously, there is an asterisk denoting I'm only referring to bad people. Obviously.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      I'm pro-Assad, in the sense that I think he's less problematic as a leader of Syria than any of his alternatives.
                      Sarin gas.

                      Sarin gas.

                      Sarin gas.

                      On his own people.

                      You're a right ******* to be pro-Assad.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #26
                        You're an idiot. You realize this isn't a choice between liberal democracy and sarin gas right? The only question right now is who gets the Sarin gas, and I'd rather Assad have it than Al Qaeda. At least he's only using it on his OWN people and not anyone else's, whereas his opponents would be happy to do both.
                        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                        ){ :|:& };:

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          You're an idiot. You realize this isn't a choice between liberal democracy and sarin gas right? The only question right now is who gets the Sarin gas, and I'd rather Assad have it than Al Qaeda. At least he's only using it on his OWN people and not anyone else's, whereas his opponents would be happy to do both.
                          It's pretty retarded to buy into the right wing conspiracy theory that this is a fight between Al Qaeda and Assad. The majority of rebels are just Syrians who got tired of being oppressed and have risen up against the regime. Saying the equivalent of '**** them' because some Islamic groups have joined the rebellion is pretty callous.

                          If I was fighting against a regime that had oppressed me and my people for decades, and another well armed group joined in on my side (while the international community chiefly sat on their hands and did nothing) I imagine I'd also welcome any help I could get. Bearing in mind that by that point tens of thousands of Syrians had died in the conflict.

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                          • #28
                            We have no reason whatsoever to believe the rebels wouldn't use sarin gas too if they had access to it and delivery mechanisms in quantity.

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                            • #29
                              Given the barbarous acts perpetrated by both rebels and Assad forces seems a reasonable conclusion.
                              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                                We have no reason whatsoever to believe the rebels wouldn't use sarin gas too if they had access to it and delivery mechanisms in quantity.
                                All the more reason to reduce the country's capability altogether.
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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