Visual Studio 2012 Professional

[Hauldren Collider]

This is some good shit. And it's free for CMU students. It's making my OpenGL graphics lab a little less like pulling teeth.

There is no point to this thread. I am just expressing immense satisfaction with this piece of software. It's ****ing magical. It probably has a blowjob feature somewhere. As far as I can tell, it has everything else I would ever want.

PS: **** OpenGL

[regexcellent]

vim supremacy

[Sava]

now make something useful and fun

[Asher]

2012 is good, 2013 is better.

Xcode 5 has a lot of cool **** (particularly with how it represents static analysis) that VS is still lacking, though.

[onodera]

HC, blowjobs are purchased separately. I like when CodeRush performs them, but some prefer ReSharper.

[Asher]

In the C++ world, Visual Assist X is an essential add-on.

Our project at work is so complex (135 VS projects in the main solution, 2M+ lines of code) that IntelliSense was completely broken in VS2010. Visual Assist saved the day, as it could index the code just fine.

[Hauldren Collider]

xcode sucks

[regexcellent]

**** your IDEs.

[Hauldren Collider]

Also Asher I didn't think 2013 was out yet, just in some sort of beta?

By the way, also awesome: C# and F#, and in particular the way you can have both C# and F# in the same program

[loinburger]

Lately I've been using Scala, which is sort of like a condensed functional version of Java that fixes a lot of Java crap. And because it's implemented on the JVM, you can make use of the zillion or so Java libraries without any headache.

[Sava]

i still have this gorilla banana throwing game in BASIC

it's ****ing bad ass dude

[Hauldren Collider]

Lately I've been using Scala, which is sort of like a condensed functional version of Java that fixes a lot of Java crap. And because it's implemented on the JVM, you can make use of the zillion or so Java libraries without any headache.

Scala is being hyped really hard here but I'm not convinced.

Java is a pretty well designed language already. The only things I actually wish it had are closures and tuples.

F# is actually really useless (in my opinion) except in a few cases where you want to write an easy to parallelize math library, and then it's really handy. But it's only handy because it works with C#/VC++/VB.NET, and from what I understand, also the fact that those can be used to write Excel plugins.

[loinburger]

Scala has closures and tuples, as well as an optional workaround for Java's type erasure implementation of generics (if type erasure is fine then you declare a class as MyClass[T] or whatever; if you want access to the type information at runtime then you use MyClass[T: ClassManifest] or MyClass[T: Manifest] depending on how much type information you need). It's also got support for actors, so you can basically program in Erlang on the JVM.

[Hauldren Collider]

Want to hear a joke? C++ type safety. Ahahahaha

[Asher]

xcode sucks

It sucks in many ways just as Visual Studio sucks in many ways.

It's also awesome in many ways just as visual Studio is awesome in many ways.

I use both daily and have for years on very large pieces of software, so I've got some basis to make that claim. I'm sure you've never actually used it for anything real.

LLVM-Clang's compiler errors and warnings and static analysis are definitely better than VS'. Instruments is also far superior to VS' perf tools, especially in Xcode 5 where a small version of them are enabled by default for all debug sessions (debug gauges).