**** the feds

[giblets]

It's only ~$40k at PPP, which is about 20% less than the US.

Are you just picking the metric that supports the conclusion you want to reach?

[regexcellent]

No, I'm picking the metric that takes into account the actual price of goods and services. Americans are wealthier than Swedes because while they might nominally have a higher GDP per capita, we actually have more stuff.

[Fake Boris]

Holy **** seriously? That's ****ing horrific. Paying for myself to go to college is expensive enough as it is (mitigated by the fact that I am on scholarship), let alone paying for other people to do so.

Sweden

Yes, you must be the only one working.

[regexcellent]

If other people are working they can pay for their own ****ing healthcare

[Fake Boris]

What makes you think they aren't paying?

[giblets]

No, I'm picking the metric that takes into account the actual price of goods and services. Americans are wealthier than Swedes because while they might nominally have a higher GDP per capita, we actually have more stuff.

Just because PPP estimates are made with the intention of taking into account differences in the cost of living does not mean they actually represent real wealth more accurately.

[Asher]

Y'all are forgetting that Walter White was trying to use an experimental procedure because his lung cancer was so advanced. That isn't usually covered by any healthcare provider.

But but, Kuci's actuary co-workers say it'd be covered. In fact, if you work for the government everything in life is free.

[N35t0r]

Wrong.

So your average poor diabetic kid is wealthier than your average old person?

Well, he is probably wealthier. But if it weren't for Medicare subsidies there is almost no chance the old person would be getting these treatments.

If this were correct, these treatments wouldn't even be available, since almost nobody would have gotten them before...

[Imran Siddiqui]

But but, Kuci's actuary co-workers say it'd be covered. In fact, if you work for the government everything in life is free.

Don't I wish!

[Sava]

I love reg's logic. He's working. Paying taxes. Paying for other people's health care.

Other people are working. Paying taxes. BUT THEY NEED TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN GORRAM HEALTHCARE

BRARWRARARAR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY RAWRAWRAWR OBAMA

Guess what reg. My household income is over $250k. Total taxes are around 40% (state and federal). And you are complaining about 10-15%?

Psshhh. Other people are subsidizing your life.

SO SHUT THE **** UP

[regexcellent]

Other people aren't subsidizing my healthcare (well in some sense they are, due to tax preferences). I was referring to living in sweden and getting public healthcare. Also, other people shouldn't subsidize my life and I shouldn't subsidize theirs.

[The Mad Monk]

I love reg's logic. He's working. Paying taxes. Paying for other people's health care.

Other people are working. Paying taxes. BUT THEY NEED TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN GORRAM HEALTHCARE

BRARWRARARAR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY RAWRAWRAWR OBAMA

Guess what reg. My household income is over $250k. Total taxes are around 40% (state and federal). And you are complaining about 10-15%?

Psshhh. Other people are subsidizing your life.

SO SHUT THE **** UP

Yes, but how much of that are you actually paying?

[Sava]

Other people aren't subsidizing my healthcare (well in some sense they are, due to tax preferences). I was referring to living in sweden and getting public healthcare. Also, other people shouldn't subsidize my life and I shouldn't subsidize theirs.

Nobody lives on an island. Even in businesses, paying customers subsidize the ability for other customers to enjoy perks... like bathrooms in restaurants. Owners know full well that without their customers, they wouldn't be able to stay in business.

The concept of collective ownership and responsibility isn't going away. So learn to deal with it... or remain some idiotic whiny little *****. I don't care. I'm just trying to help you out.

Yes, but how much of that are you actually paying?

The percentage of income I pay in taxes is lower due to most of it being capital gains.

Take it up with Mitt Romney if you have a problem with that.

And also, you don't see me *****ing about stuff like that. If anything, I'm more than grateful for the public goods I benefit from.

[Dauphin]

Yes, you should.

I doubt the financial incentive is good enough.

[Aeson]

Last year I worked for the federal government so it would have been kinda ironic for me to complain.

Waiting a year doesn't make it any less ironic...