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  • #91
    Order of the Fly

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    • #92
      Billy Carter reference. Nice.
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Elok View Post
        Given the inordinately large amount of tax money spent on each new member of the royal family, you folks really ought to think about population control. If you like, we can send over Bob Barker for a "spay and neuter your ruling class" campaign, assuming he hasn't died without my noticing.
        I might be wrong, but doesn't US waste lots of tax money on former presidents, widows to such etc ?
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #94
          Damn pensioners.
          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
          "Capitalism ho!"

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          • #95
            They should perform in a quasi-Disneyland like the British royals.

            Earn their keep.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Elok View Post
              At times, Americans have shown a disastrous tendency to direct this impulse towards the office of the president.
              While you are right about this, you forget that americans are down on their belly making devout muslims looking atheist when it comes to money.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Elok View Post
                Seriously, the Royals do have a certain warped function. Most human beings--perhaps, deep down inside, all of them--have a certain desire to bow and scrape before authority. At times, Americans have shown a disastrous tendency to direct this impulse towards the office of the president. The Brits don't have to worry about that, because they've directed all the overbearing pomp of power towards a perfectly harmless batch of figureheads.
                Also, one does not getting called a traitor, even by the wackiest of wackos, if one doesn't agree with the Prime Minister (a la during the Bush Administration during the Iraq War).
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                  I might be wrong, but doesn't US waste lots of tax money on former presidents, widows to such etc ?
                  Not really.
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    Not really.
                    As in "not a penny" or those millions are just peanuts ?
                    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                    Steven Weinberg

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                    • As in, it's just what you europeans would consider normal pension obligations for every employer, but we only offer it to people who actually deserve it.

                      Well actually I wish that were true; government pensions are ludicrous but the president is one of the few people who actually deserves his.

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                      • Nah, a fair pension is reasonable, but why shouldn't former presidents pay for their own security ? That can't be the states responsibility.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • Because lots of people hate them after they do the job? It's like being responsible for a soldiers PTSD.
                          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                          • True, but they probably also hated them before they got elected and there they got no protection.
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • Nah, they were all politicians before president. Lots of people already hated them for their job.
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                              • Exactly, so why waste money on protecting them ?
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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